leaving LO for MM ?
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Why not try moving to a different LO? How many years of experience do you have?
Analyst 1 in IB-M&AWhy not try moving to a different LO? How many years of experience do you have?It is an option. Would have to stay patient because no LOs are hiring right now. 8-9ish YOE
If you believe you are a good analyst, it seems like the best option for you would be to move to a better LO where you would see an immediate step up in comp as well as a path to continued comp growth. sure you might not be able to do this immediately, but if you are a good candidate this seems highly achievable if you are patient and invest some time into it. take this with a grain of salt
Don't do it lol. $400k with 8 years of experience is decent. MM is a tough racket. You only hear about the successes / LinkedIn sleuthing provides survivorship bias. If you include people who join as associates / senior associates and get blown up within a year, the longterm payoff is awful.
This is the right answer.
Depends on how good you are, you have to be very objective and honest about this point. Most of the bright analysts out there will unfortunately be average....Then you need to ask yourself how high your risk tolerance is, as MMs are more meritocratic than LOs but by definition would blow up some good apples every now and again. If both tick your boxes, you should sign up.
What's your sector?
Coast for now imo - until the economy improves / cycle turns. LO gigs r still way more chill / fun you don’t wanna be stressed covering 50+ names ….
Depends on what you want. If LO vs MM was absolutely better or worse, there would be a significant talent skew and that is not the case.
In MM, if you’re good and join a good team, you’ll make millions. If you’re not good or have a bad team luck, you’ll be exited within 1-2 years. At larger platforms, the team issue is mitigated as there are plenty of teams hiring all of the time.
So it’s a choice between 300-400k for a long time with less pressure vs. 200-multi 7 figures for 0-10 years (before becoming a PM or exiting) with more pressure. The decision depends on personal confidence, risk tolerance, and desire for work life balance. If you are highly confident you’re above average stock picker and/or don’t mind the extra stress and hours, it’s a no brainer and vice versa.
I think the flip side is joining a LO that has smaller teams with significant amount of capital. Those places probably gives you better risk-adjusted path 700k-$1M+ earnings with less career volatility. Granted there aren’t too many of these shops, but they are out there and some aren’t even mentioned on WSO.
Thanks, that’s fascinating. Any examples of such LOs?
If there are LOs that pay $1M+ consistently for mid level analysts, I clearly made the wrong career choice 10 years ago lol
Thanks, interesting!
With your experience and assuming that you neither short nor have discretion you will start in a very junior seat at a MM. MMs heavily discount LO years.
I’ve seen several LO analysts go to big 4 as senior analysts with formulaic pay. I’d say depends on your relevant experience (generalist years are indeed heavily discounted) and pitch / case study quality.
I understand that moving from one role to another can be an important step in your career. However, before deciding to move from LO to MM, you need to carefully consider various factors to make an informed decision. First, you should understand that MM positions usually require a higher level of competence and responsibility than LO positions. If you feel that you can't handle the demands of an LO, then perhaps MM won't meet your needs either. Secondly, you should realize that moving to MM may require a significant change in your work style and skill requirements, which can be a challenge. However, if you are able to meet the demands of the new role, then it can open up new opportunities for you in your career. Thirdly, you should consider the financial and other benefits of moving to MM. If you're getting some pretty fat sign-on bonuses, then this may reduce the risk of making the switch. However, you also need to consider what opportunities will be available to you in your new role and how they will impact your career going forward.
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Bahah had same thought
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