Strategist (Sell-Side) vs Execution Trader (AM)
Hi all,
I started my career as a macro desk strategist at a BB and moved to a small fund a year ago. My PM is a nightmare and it's very frustrating. Most of other PMs in the fund look nice and I believe my PM is just an outlier in this industry. I would like to give it a try again one day - with better due diligence for sure. Internal move is impossible given the size of the fund.
I'm currently looking at two options - either going back to my previous bank as a macro strategist (still have good relationship with the team) or an execution trader role at a top AM firm. The AM firm doesn't have a history of people moving from trading to PM but they seem to add value to the investment decision. Pay will likely be higher at the bank.
I imagine if I go back to BB I would need to do this transition again at some point - moving to a pod, starting taking risk and potentially moving into a sub-PM role. I am good at this job but think a lot of it is just publishing and marketing. When I tried interviewing for HF roles I felt the macro strategist job doesn't align with what most PMs need at pod shops very well as most PMs want some trader background. I am aware that some people just go directly from macro strategist to APM role but that's very rare and I don't know how that happen.
If I take the execution trader job I would probably need to try moving internally (although there's no previous case) or externally as sub-PM. There will be so much for me to learn and my current experience told me that macro traders have very relevant skills.
Staying in my current job is not an option.
Which one is a better choice that could lead to a HF or AM PM role at some point?
Based on the most helpful WSO content, here's a breakdown of your situation and the potential paths:
1. Macro Strategist at a BB
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2. Execution Trader at a Top AM Firm
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Given your goal of becoming a PM and the challenges you’ve faced as a strategist, the execution trader role at the AM firm seems like the better choice. It offers the opportunity to develop trading skills that are directly applicable to macro PM roles, even if it requires an external move later. However, if you value immediate pay and stability, the strategist role at the BB could be a safer option.
Ultimately, the decision depends on your risk tolerance, long-term goals, and willingness to navigate the challenges of each path.
Sources: Routes to Buyside PM, Q&A: Non-Target School to Portfolio Manager at a Top Hedge Fund – 6 Years Out of Undergrad, https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equity/why-i-left-pe-switched-to-the-public-markets?customgpt=1, Routes to Buyside PM
What do you want to do at a HF? If you want to be a macro trader, then get trading experience. I have no idea how many execution traders go to hedge funds or if it's common but I know someone like that.
Also how did you become a macro desk strategist?
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