Navigating IB -> MM
Hi all,
I am very keen on making the move from IB over to one of the top pod shops in New York (where I'm originally from). I'm currently at a top BB on a generalist coverage team in Asia.
I understand that pods have pretty narrow sector focuses, but my coverage has had me working on a pretty broad range of industries, so there's not any particular sector that my work experience naturally pushes me towards.
I know I will probably need to sell a pretty deep sector interest in order to get considered for a seat, so I'm interested to know what the sector coverage substructure at the big pods is currently looking like. I'm most curious about Citadel and Balyasny if anyone has any information or has interacted with their BD people before
Curious to know how much PMs would be testing sector knowledge too, if that's something that comes up much in interviews. Tech hardware (semis and telecoms) is probably where I have the most interest but I'm a bit nervous about how intensely technical those products are and pretty conscious of the limitations of my knowledge there.
Really whatever info anyone has. Thanks.
To make the move from IB to a top pod shop like Citadel or Balyasny, here’s what you need to know based on the most helpful WSO content:
Sector Focus at Pod Shops:
Sector Knowledge and Interviews:
Preparation Tips:
Challenges and Opportunities:
By focusing on building deep sector expertise, networking strategically, and preparing thoroughly for interviews, you can position yourself as a strong candidate for a seat at a top pod shop.
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The interviews focus on how you break down businesses not deep technical expertise. Deep sector knowledge is secondary coming from IB
Thanks! Helpful to know.
In that case how liberal are BD with allocating you to a sector team? Especially for those coming from broad coverage teams?
Answer is it depends. Some PMs are looking for a relatively junior analyst they can mentor and train, and industry expertise is not important. Many candidates coming from IB would fit this mold.
Other PMs look for plug-and-play analysts that already know the companies they will be covering. Most candidates from ER will get grilled about their views on 15 stocks within their subsector, and they will be expected to have deep knowledge.
With your background, you are unlikely to be considered for the latter type of profiles. On the other hand, you might get a look at more verticals of coverage where the PM doesn't require sector knowledge.
Word of advice, it isn't easy recruiting to switch to the buyside, much less when doing it cross-continent. If on top of that you restrict yourself to only tech hardware, your chances will be extremely low. If I were you I would present myself to biz dev as open to all sectors.
Let’s say someone is in IB and wants to end up at a MM HF, but wants to do PE in between (mainly to get buyout execution reps under my belt), would going to PE hamper the profile of a candidate in the eyes of a PM who wants the first category of analyst (young, moldable, etc)?
Getting "buyout execution reps" is largely irrelevant to what a MMHF analyst role requires. Coming from PE can also make you perceived as having (too) high comp expectations and thus not even invited to interview.
In other words, it's a bad idea.
agreed on buyout execution being irrelevant to MMHF, that would be more for my personal endeavors in the future. comment on comp expectations makes sense, thanks.
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