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It's getting more and more common. I'm a nontarget and landed an SA at a solid vc fund. Several friends of mine got SA's at PE, credit, etc. Not impossible by any means. Maybe 10, 5 years ago but definitely not now. 

 

Currently a non-target kid at one of those top SMs. Honestly seems like the H/W concentration is a matter of correlation, not causation. The HFs recruiting undergrads know there is top talent (albeit in lesser concentration) at other schools, they just don't have the time/resources to find it the way banks do. If you are actually a top kid (and the bar for this keeps rising), then there are top SM HFs and MFs that will give you a look as an undergrad. Ofc there are a few who prob only accept H/W apps to make their lives easier, but overall the recruiting landscape is changing.

 

None of those SMs, including yours, will give full time offers though. They're just scouting for talent at practically zero cost.

(I'm assuming you're at Baupost)

 

It ended up being one of the top managers in NY. Fucking crazy, literally hand picked senior analysts. Manager is kind of anti-IB kids and they needed a fresh junior team that they can form from the start.

 

In an investing role at GS/MS. Most people are from targets but there is definitely a large contingency of non-targets in well-respected investment seats. It is definitely easier to get looks if you’re at a target but if you’re smart and work hard you will get opportunities from anywhere. Know multiple people who sent thousands of emails in order to get their roles. The process isn’t easy the buy side is available to anyone if they grind enough. 

 

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