Switching from Quant Dev to Quant Research
I am joining a hedge fund as a quantitative developer after studying computer science and I want to move closer to alpha generation (ideally a quant trader).
How do I show to employers that I am capable enough that they would want to laterally move me? And how do I ensure that when I get there I can actually do it?
To transition from Quant Dev to Quant Research or even Quant Trader, here’s what you need to focus on based on the most helpful WSO content:
Build Domain Knowledge:
Develop Quantitative Skills:
Showcase Initiative:
Leverage Your Current Role:
Network Internally:
Prepare for the Role:
Be Patient and Strategic:
By combining technical expertise, proactive learning, and strategic networking, you can demonstrate your potential to excel in a quant research or trading role.
Sources: Moving from Quant researcher to Quant PM, How do you become a Quant Trader?, https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/hedge-fund/quant-hedge-fund-career-progression?customgpt=1, Good time for a new analyst to join L/S hedge fund?, Q&A: Top Quant Firms First Year Comp 250k to 400k
I know nothing but I am a curious guy (non-quant / fundamental). Questions:
In this firm QDev do everything from technical infrastructure (how do we ensure our trades are reaching the exchange efficiently), tooling (maybe they add a bloomberg plugin or maybe they create a test bed to run strategies), back-testing, implementation and optimisation (low-level optimisation to ensure a strategy runs as quickly as possible). That's my interpretation at least.
QRes do time-series analysis and come up with signals (multi-month projects sometimes). QT then monitor these strategies, do fine tuning of the models from QR to adapt to the current market, and sometimes override models. They are primary risk takers.
QDev naturally has less influence on PnL as they are not risk takers, so the bonus tends to be less.
I'm pretty interested in the idea of trading as well as the bonus rise (of course only if I am good) all things considered.
QD/QR/QT are often more of a spectrum than outright delineations. You took a QD job, want to move to QR before even starting, but think that what you really want is QT? Will that work, maybe.
Is the opportunity to backfire because you are too focussed on the next 2 job moves, but don't do a good job of what you've been hired for? Yes, many such cases.
What is the difference in your mind between the 3 roles such that QT is your ultimate target, aside from "more money"?
^this. no need to rush. I rushed and got in seat too early and blew up. Do 2yrs QD -> 2yrs QR.
You're building a foundational base for next 25 years. Be grateful and give thanks by working your ass off and learn all that you can. If you can't QD then you can't QR.
I would of course work hard in QD - that's without saying. Thanks for the timeline suggestions. If you don't mind, could you elaborate on your path?
I suppose my original post was wondering if there were particular strategies people use to intro / navigate the firm? For example ensuring that you are on a small desk rather than just doing tooling.
No.
Don't be the unlikable autist that does his work well. Be the likable irreplaceable autist who is happy tooling if he's learning. It'll all come with time. Its much better to not be in the seat for your first bull cycle.
Someone who I still look up to- took him 12 years post PhD as a quant to get in the PM seat. All the better for it and one of the largest niche PMs because his foundation across products were so strong through 2 cycles.
Haha! Thanks
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