Switching from Quant Dev to Quant Research

I am joining a hedge fund as a quantitative developer after studying computer science and I want to move closer to alpha generation (ideally a quant trader).

How do I show to employers that I am capable enough that they would want to laterally move me? And how do I ensure that when I get there I can actually do it?

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To transition from Quant Dev to Quant Research or even Quant Trader, here’s what you need to focus on based on the most helpful WSO content:

  1. Build Domain Knowledge:

    • Start by understanding the alpha generation process. Learn about the strategies your firm employs and the mathematical/statistical models behind them.
    • Engage with the researchers and traders at your firm to gain insights into their workflows and decision-making processes.
  2. Develop Quantitative Skills:

    • Strengthen your knowledge in areas like stochastic calculus, numerical methods, and optimization techniques, as these are often used in quant research and trading.
    • Familiarize yourself with machine learning and data analysis techniques, as these are increasingly relevant in alpha generation.
  3. Showcase Initiative:

    • Work on side projects that demonstrate your ability to contribute to alpha generation. For example, build a small trading model or analyze historical data to identify patterns.
    • Share your findings with the research team or your manager to show your interest and capability.
  4. Leverage Your Current Role:

    • Use your position as a Quant Dev to get involved in projects that overlap with research. For instance, offer to help implement or optimize research models.
    • Highlight your contributions to the research process, even if they are technical, to position yourself as a bridge between development and research.
  5. Network Internally:

    • Build relationships with researchers and traders. Express your interest in transitioning and seek their advice on the skills and knowledge you need to develop.
    • Demonstrating your enthusiasm and willingness to learn can make them more likely to advocate for your transition.
  6. Prepare for the Role:

    • Study the interview process for quant research or trading roles. As noted in WSO threads, expect technical questions, brainteasers, and discussions about strategies and risk management.
    • Practice articulating your ideas and strategies clearly, as communication is key in these roles.
  7. Be Patient and Strategic:

    • Understand that moving into a research or trading role may take time. Focus on building a strong foundation and gradually positioning yourself for the transition.

By combining technical expertise, proactive learning, and strategic networking, you can demonstrate your potential to excel in a quant research or trading role.

Sources: Moving from Quant researcher to Quant PM, How do you become a Quant Trader?, https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/hedge-fund/quant-hedge-fund-career-progression?customgpt=1, Good time for a new analyst to join L/S hedge fund?, Q&A: Top Quant Firms First Year Comp 250k to 400k

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I know nothing but I am a curious guy (non-quant / fundamental). Questions:

  1. Are QDev and QResearcher generally standardized terms? I.e., the QDev just implements other people's ideas, while the QResearcher identifies signals? Do the QDevs work for QResearchers, or what's the interaction model?
  2. And only the QResearchers gets paid a P&L cut? Or why are you attempting this switch?
 
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In this firm QDev do everything from technical infrastructure (how do we ensure our trades are reaching the exchange efficiently), tooling (maybe they add a bloomberg plugin or maybe they create a test bed to run strategies), back-testing, implementation and optimisation (low-level optimisation to ensure a strategy runs as quickly as possible). That's my interpretation at least.

QRes do time-series analysis and come up with signals (multi-month projects sometimes). QT then monitor these strategies, do fine tuning of the models from QR to adapt to the current market, and sometimes override models. They are primary risk takers.

QDev naturally has less influence on PnL as they are not risk takers, so the bonus tends to be less.

I'm pretty interested in the idea of trading as well as the bonus rise (of course only if I am good) all things considered.

 

QD/QR/QT are often more of a spectrum than outright delineations.  You took a QD job,  want to move to QR before even starting, but think that what you really want is QT?  Will that work, maybe.  

Is the opportunity to backfire because you are too focussed on the next 2 job moves, but don't do a good  job of what you've been hired for?  Yes, many such cases. 

What is the difference in your mind between the 3 roles such that QT is your ultimate target, aside from "more money"?  

 

I would of course work hard in QD - that's without saying. Thanks for the timeline suggestions. If you don't mind, could you elaborate on your path?

I suppose my original post was wondering if there were particular strategies people use to intro / navigate the firm? For example ensuring that you are on a small desk rather than just doing tooling.

 

If you don't mind, could you elaborate on your path?

No.
 

[can you share] particular strategies people use to intro / navigate the firm? 

Don't be the unlikable autist that does his work well. Be the likable irreplaceable autist who is happy tooling if he's learning. It'll all come with time. Its much better to not be in the seat for your first bull cycle. 

Someone who I still look up to- took him 12 years post PhD as a quant to get in the PM seat. All the better for it and one of the largest niche PMs because his foundation across products were so strong through 2 cycles. 

 

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