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I have reached out to a former MD in my neighborhood. He has been very responsive and helpful. However, I find the majority of our conversations about his kid. I play a sport in college that his son (middle school) happens to play as well and he has asked me to speak with his kid and give him advice and I have offered to train him myself. I have only had a few conversations with the father, but I just want to make sure I don’t get pigeon holed as the athletic guy who helps his kid and not as a potential ibanker. He has offered to introduce me to several of his many contacts still in IB. I just need advice on how to handle this situation so that both parties benefit.
tell him you need a superday or his son can eat shit
Lets be honest, if he wanted a personal trainer for his kid he could go out and get one. Hell, surely there are thousands of college kids who play that sport that would happily do a couple training sessions for a hundred bucks.
Having had an MD mentor before it can be difficult to pin down time to speak, or reasons for him to even pick up the phone or reply to an email. You have here a tangible chance to build a relationship. Further, think about what he is offering in return for chatting to an annoying kid every now and again.
My advice? Keep the relationship going, and offer to help the kid. When you speak to him, do the chit chat but make sure to turn the conversation to IB and when the time is right, flat out ask for introductions. And I don't mean just ask and he says "yeah sure" and that is it, treat this like a meeting at work. Follow up with an email saying about being excited etc to meet some people and keep the ball rolling.
Remember that these guys are busy though, and don't be disheartened if nothing comes of it all. It is all just part of the game my man.
And for the record, the kid is great and very personable/smart for his age, so working with him will be great. Thnx for the advice. I understand how valuable this relationship can be, just don’t want to screw it up.
lmao gotta cover yourself just in case he sees this right?
Those were my thoughts. For the record he has agreed to speak with me about IB and as I said, introduce me to other people. I am only a freshman, so this summer I will really dig into the technical aspects of IB so when I do ask to be introduced I am much more of a serious candidate rather than a kid who is interested in IB.
Yeah, the most important thing right now esp. with everything going on is just keeping the relationship alive. I've found in my experience that mentors seem to have a little back and forth over time and then one day, fuck knows why whether its the moon or something, but they come in clutch and pull out an opportunity. Just keep yourself well positioned for that time.
Agree with the above, if he wanted a coach he would just hire one, this is a great chance to build a lifelong mentor. Show off your soft skills and that can act casual/aren't just a hardo asking for a superday. Hang out or give advice to the kid a few times and then ask the MD for some career advice.
dude i was in a spot just like yours not too long ago, and let me tell you that's the best kind of relationship you can build from networking - a sort of mentor-mentee relationship. don't worry about getting "pigeon holed", in fact you should WANT to be remembered as "the kid who teaches my kid (sport)" - he'll remember you down the line and go above and beyond to tee you up to industry folks (with strong recommendations obviously)/ really push you for interviews
keep plugging away my guy, there's a story of a CEO of a BB who broke in from being a golf caddie (forgot his name soz). pretty sure he wasn't pigeonholed as a caddie nor did he care...
Just keep giving - be patient -be grateful for any help. Relationships take a while to develop, networking doesn't always lead where you want it to in the immediate term. Slow and steady, keep the momentum.
Don't be shy, simply ask to be introduced to his contacts if he's already asked. I'm sure he doesn't mind if he offered.
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