Any Offices that allow Open or Concealed Carry?
Do any IB offices allow their bankers to carry a legal firearm on them during working hours? Either concealed or open carry on the belt with approved holster, permit card, etc.
2nd amendment and it makes me feel safe carrying it around for others to be aware. Thank you.
Assuming you’re not a troll, which may be a bridge (lol) too far, why would any firm allow this? this is an ENORMOUS liability.
I’m not anti 2A but you’ll feel safer ok, but in 99% of workplaces everyone else will feel less safe their coworker is carrying a gun.
Tell me which is more common: a) someone breaks into an office and requires containment regular security cannot handle, OR b) someone with a gun gets upset and does something stupid.
Kind of a red flag.
From the little googling I did of NYC law and my experience in the city, I don’t think it’s legal to openly carry a gun anywhere in the state of New York
https://ag.ny.gov/new-york-gun-laws
The same link also says that private parties can restrict people with guns to enter their areas. I am not aware of a single building owner in manhattan that would seem to be okay with someone bringing a gun into their building but I could be wrong
That said I don’t necessarily see them checking people for concealed guns so maybe they don’t care so much, but still not sure how colleagues would feel in this area if they knew someone had a gun on them at work
this thread cracks me up
Lmao you want to carry at your desk job where your firm likely has an office only accessible by key card / requires somebody to get past security? I'm a gun owner and this is hilarious.
If you’re an gun owner, then you should know that a threat can strike anywhere, anytime. Having a concealed firearm or carrying on your belt can be a response to a rogue employee that goes nuts.
Or maybe your walking in lobby of building and some madman walks in looking to cause trouble. I didn’t realize this was such a touchy subject for you guys. It’s a basic right and I would mind if the whole office was armed since everyone can remain civil
No I'm not going to bring my shotgun to work. And TBH you'd be the rogue employee I'd be more worried about in this instance.
Houston offices do.
Source: I interned there
Let's exclude NY and CA for a moment here, but the reality is it's dependent on the state and presumes you either live in a constitutional carry state or have your CCW permit. For example, in North Carolina, you can carry anywhere that has not expressly prohibited the carrying of firearms on the premise. So if you worked for BoA in their HQ in Charlotte, you might not be able to legally carry if they have expressly prohibited firearms on the premise. Now, let's say you worked in Texas, which is a constitutional carry state, if your firm's building had an explicit prohibition against firearms and signage indicating that, then you can't carry there. At the end of the day, it comes down to what are the rules in your state, so just go ahead and research that before asking any questions.
Interesting. Thanks for your point of view.
I don't think it's a point of view. I think it's basic common sense. This isn't "common sense gun laws", but actual common sense. You're a gun owner, therefore it's your obligation to know the laws in your state for gun ownership. IF you go the route of having a CCW, you're expected to know the law inside and out. This means knowing, among other things, where you can and cannot carry. If you're going into banking and feel the need to carry in the office, really, the first question you have is what are the laws concerning carrying on private property? This is immediately followed by asking if there any prohibition of firearms to be aware of in the building. If there aren't, then you can discuss CCW in the office, but I'd look in the employee handbook about that one too.
I think it's just a safety concern for me that our employers should allow for. I don't know about you guys, but everyday life is scary. There is a nice park I go to near my house. I do walking exercises. I get very nervous when I see a parked car adjacent to the paths I walk. I always give myself wide berth around the vehicle in case they jump out or the vehicle has IED. Just never know.
It's a nice area from what I can tell not big crime like big cities. But I am still so careful and hyper vigliant of those around. If they want to try and get me, it won't be easy for them. I imagine many here feel same way correct?
So... instead of doing what a gun owner following basic common sense would do and both learn and understand your state's laws and your company's policies about this, your desire to carry a firearm on private property (not your own personal property or public property) should be guaranteed over the concerns of your coworkers, colleagues, and employer over carrying a firearm in the office is what you're saying. In effect, you're saying "Fuck everyone, my 2nd amendment rights trump all". The second amendment does not apply private-sector restrictions on firearm ownership or possession, only government restrictions on ownership and possession. So if your employer says no, are you going to risk it and carry it anyway? That's termination for cause. What happens if you're printing and someone notices and brings it up to HR? That's an even bigger headache to deal with. What if you're in a shared space office building and the landlord says no but your company doesn't care? That's criminal trespassing if you're caught. It seems like you've ignored an extremely reasonable and pragmatic answer that, as a potential gun owner, should have been your first response before even asking on here about it. Not only that, if you were caught with a firearm on site even with a CCW permit, you could be risking your career in banking over this. The simple fact is your employer does not care about your need to conceal carry on site, they are more worried about making sure all your employees feel like they are in a safe work environment. Unless 51% of your firm all of a sudden feels the same way, don't expect your concerns to be even remotely heard.
The part that you're missing is that we ARE owners in the company if it's pubicly traded and we OWN stock in it. Doesn't matter how little or a lot we own, but we are owners. This you argue that it is in some way our private property too and should have a say in these rules. Do you not see it this way?
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