Any Overrated IB Groups?
Title, any groups get glazed too much? Feels like if I launched a bank tomorrow, grabbed a few washed-up RX bankers, called it a “top-tier restructuring shop", people here would act like it’s the best thing since sliced bread.
Or are all of them exactly how their reputation suggests?
Incoming RX An1 and this is pretty funny - I do think for the most part the top 3-5 restructuring groups have very sharp people and truly work on interesting deals (and probably deserve their "prestige")
Congrats on Greenhill
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UBS LevFin. All the group does all day every day is long internal credit memos that are heavily templated. There are good PC exits, but who wants to be in PC, which is blowing up right now? WSO loves to glaze the group and hate on the rest of UBS, but it's not the best group for exits or learning experience at UBS. There hasn't been anyone who has left to a reputable PE firm since the group split with sponsors, let alone a UMM/MF name.
Do not beleive the lies that people say about still getting PE looks, but most people choosing to go into PC. The fact of the matter is the only PE looks you get are LMM/MM names, whilst the PC looks are UMM/MF firms. That's the reason everyone ends up exiting into PE, not because of preference per se.
Lazard is overrated as fuck lmao
All of it or just some groups?
Second this. People put them in the same ballpark as the top EBs but talent-wise they are nowhere near that tier
Agree.
Tier 1: EVR/CVP/PJT RX
Tier 2: MOE/LAZ/PWP/PJT M&A
Lazard is paradise (in some places).
Nomura Greentech
Is it really overrated? Most of the recent threads on the group on WSO highlight weak exits outside of exiting to other banks. Not sure how it can be overrated.
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