Anyone know of any firms or groups with fairly easy hours at associate and VP levels? I'm assuming there are some tier 3 and 4 banks with groups that aren't too bad. I imagine comp is a bit lower, but probably not by an enormous amount.
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I think you'll hardly find banks with "easy" hours, especially not at Associate level (and it's a myth that VPs have easy hours) - you should focus your search on local boutiques.
You can't say you wanna do banking without putting in the effort that comes with it, by the way.
This.
If you are looking for easy hours, stay the fuck out of IB. I'm saying this as a friend, and someone with experience.
My first IB gig was easy hours. About 60-65 hours a week. But, when that deal comes through at 4:00pm on a friday, you learn quickly you're in banking. All materials need to be done by Monday morning, which really means you need to be done with your part by Saturday night at the latest to go through the VP/MD approval chain. Boom - just like that, all nighter mode.
I have had easy 50 hour weeks. I have had grueling 90 hour weeks. But the unpredictability makes the hours in IB stressful, not necessarily the hours by itself.
So - if you aren't even at the associate level and asking what firms have easier hours, trust me when I tell you that you should reconsider IB (and corporate banking for that matter).
Grade: F You’re not answering the question. I was asking for the banks that tend to have fewer average hours per week. My IB experience is at BBs, with my current group being one of the hardest working groups in the company. What you described is not news to me.
"Anyone know of any firms or groups with fairly easy hours at associate and VP levels? I'm assuming there are some tier 3 and 4 banks with groups that aren't too bad. I imagine comp is a bit lower, but probably not by an enormous amount."
You're asking about fairly easy hours. So no, you did not ask which banks tend to have fewer average hours per week.
I don't give 2 fucks where you used to work; simply added to the discussion.
lol Grade F for free advice on a question you asked? Hold this monkey shit
According to WSO latest IB survey
Credit Suisse, Wells Fargo, and SunTrust Robinson Humphrey had the best Work-Life Balance
wow finally an answer to the dude's actual question. Funny how a straightforward question about relative work-life balance turns into a "who works the hardest" cock measuring contest.
Where is this easy hour coming from? I am still working at least 70-80 hours per week. I tried boutiques, bbs, family offices, and corporates in China, New York, and Southeast Asia for the last 12 years.
Yeah.. it's called the back office, kid. Y'know, back as in where no one can see you... because you're ugly.
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Lehman Brothers is a pretty chill place from what I've read. I've also heard great things about Bear Stearns and Stratton Oakmont.
Yes, but the fit interview is a killer, making you sell pencils and shit . . .