Hi guys. Grateful to get into all of these schools, but I'm having trouble deciding and will be visiting all of them soon. I don't know if I want to recruit for either IB or consulting (leaning IB) after undergrad, but I'm also pretty interested in exploring startups/entrepreneurship in college. Thanks for the help.
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Go to/have friends at all of the above. Would begin by crossing off Berkeley. Weaker overall placements, dictated by major (engineering and Haas) and then by club culture, which is very hard. Harder to break in w/ econ
UMich is a great school, but NY IB is a lot of luck, and again, clubs matter a lot here. Can't speak as much to the entrepreneurship culture, but I've heard it's decent.
I think the choice comes down to Stern vs. Cornell, and Cornell is both a better place to recruit and better for entrepreneurship. Fewer kids are recruited out of Cornell than just from Stern, and there's a similar number placed, with fewer cutthroat clubs and less emphasis on being in a club to place. For entrepreneurship, I can't speak to Stern, but there's a strong culture at Cornell, lots of kids in Dyson are interested in both, and multiple clubs exist to both connect with VCs and send to YC and other Accelerators.
Only downside with Cornell (that I'm not sure about other schools) is that you can't double major with CS, only Information Sciences, which is watered down CS. I think it's a pretty easy choice
Thanks for the detailed and insightful response! If I go to Cornell, I'll probably minor in CS. My main concern with Cornell is the isolation. If you don't mind me asking, do you know your Dyson friend's perspective/feeling about Cornell's location and how limiting it is? Thanks again!
Cornell is a pretty big school with people from all over the world. Don’t think you should feel very isolated. If anything, the fact that everyone is stuck on campus together is a good thing because everyone’s a lot closer to one another (more of a traditional college experience).
The city’s always going to be there but you won’t have any other time in your life where you can have a traditional college experience. That’s coming from someone who is very much a city person. In theory, you can intern during the year if you go to school in a city but in practice, no reputable shops really do year round interns. It’s more work than it’s worth because why would you want some random teenager / kid in their early 20s coming in at random times throughout the week while you’re trying to do your job and go home.
Full transparency I go to Cornell, my friends attend other schools. Minors work across schools. I think while Cornell is far ish from most places, it's a large school even on non ivy terms and I think that leads to a lot more bonding, especially with the Freshman only dorms everyone stays in their first year. Personally I am a fan, I know I'll be in the city after graduation and prefer the campus, and some of the prettiest views I've ever seen. Lot more fun to be in greek life here and all the clubs have parties and stuff. Feel free to DM Me, was making a somewhat similar decision for college, and saw what recruiting was like at all the above schools except Michigan.
Hi! I'm an incoming freshman at Cornell and would really appreciate it if I could ask some questions thru pm. Thanks for the help!
Stern vs Cornell based on fit. Have you visited
Cornell is amazing. Only downside is you’re not in the city, but that can also be an upside. You’re insulated and have A. College experience B. Only around other bright minds your age. C. Free to focus. Can’t imagine if I went to Columbia or NYU what dumb sht my 18-22y/o self would’ve done.
The Cornell brand and alumni network is impeccable. Every bank recruits from Cornell. Pipeline is stronger for some than others (GS/JPM/MS), but I don’t know if I saw much of a Barclays pipeline. Someone feel free to rebuttal.
There's not much of a Barclays pipeline, really not sure why. It's the biggest bank that doesn't have a strong pipeline from Cornell, but anywhere else relevant is on the table
If we’re comparing pipeline, stern is equal or better at every bank and better for the buyside. But I agree it comes down to campus fit. Both similar difficulty of recruiting
I think a big difference between Stern and Cornell is the per capita pipeline and how much they depend on clubs, at least based on comparing my friend and I's experience
I don’t agree with this. I was heavily involved in recruiting for my BB (GS/MS/JPM) and generally speaking, preference was HYPSM and Wharton, then the rest of the Ivies, UChicago, Duke, etc. then the top business programs (Stern, Ross, Georgetown, UVA etc.). Would say Cornell and Stern are generally more or less in the same tier for IB and Cornel wins for the buyside. Peak Frameworks tracks this stuff I believe but it’s probably on a lag, but seems accurate overall. There are also several retarded rankings on this site that support this general tier list as well.
Stern is obviously a great school and does win on total count in high finance, but that’s because Cornell’s more of a diversified school with a fat population interested in STEM.
Hi! I'm an incoming freshman at Cornell and would really appreciate it if I could ask some questions thru pm. Thanks for the help!
Stern if you're set on finance, cornell if you think you might want to do something else.
Ross not close lol. If u grind you’ll get the same outcome anywhere here but 1000x the college experience.
Cornell student. They're all similar enough for outcomes that you can argue either way over which recruits better. I think it's fair to say Stern has a more sharp-elbowed culture, though that's not to say Cornell and Michigan don't have their problems. I know it's a cop-out answer but given that they're all pretty similar schools from a recruitment perspective and you're already on WSO as a high school senior you should be able to get the same offer from any of them. Almost every other aspect of the schools are different, so decide based on that.
I'm biased but I will say Cornell is uniquely good at allowing career pivots and optionality if you end up not liking finance as firms don't really care about your major / undergrad school. Ithaca's not as bad as people say as well.
Hi! I'm an incoming freshman at Cornell and would really appreciate it if I could ask some questions thru pm. Thanks for the help!
Definitely ross lol
Just sad. This is the state of UMich. Commenting twice because no one agrees with you.
i chose cornell over stern and berkeley
Hi! I'm an incoming freshman at Cornell and would really appreciate it if I could ask some questions thru pm. Thanks for the help!
Cornell any day of the week.
Hi! I'm an incoming freshman at Cornell and would really appreciate it if I could ask some questions thru pm. Thanks for the help!
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