19 Comments
 

Maybe they could just stop drastically underpricing IPOs

 

That's part of the argument for a DL, it's basically an auction so there's much less prediction is involved. We all know a company's "fundamental value" is a nebulous concept, so letting people pay exactly how much they want for a stock for as much as they want is way better than piecing out an IPO to bank clients at poorly chosen prices and at much lower share counts than the longer-term holders would like. The VCs are obnoxious but I do think they're right about this one.

 

Well I don't think anyone would've priced DoorDash and AirBnb at the prices they opened at, they just aren't worth their valuations. Almost impossible to predict.

You're telling me every red neck in a trailer understands the covid premium when selling a used washer but the "best and brightest" in banking don't?

If the glove don't fit, you must acquit!
 
Most Helpful

Maybe they could just stop drastically underpricing IPOs

it's not a simplistic question of underpricing. the primary investors are largely long- term buy and hold oriented asset managers; they won't invest at crazy valuations but if the broad market is offering them a 50% bump, they're going to sell some.  no sane company wants their primary investors to be a consortium of Robin hood day traders. 

 

It is tough, banks want to slightly underprice an IPO so there is a bump from offering to opening along with solid 1 day, 1 week performance to keep ipo investors happy, but some of these tech IPOs, Snowflake, DoorDash, Airbnb, etc., have been brutal. Insiders and early stage investors have to be skeptical of banks pricing their IPOs when you see the stock move up 100% from offer to opening, that is essentially money taken out of their pockets.

 

this is great for tech/growth hedge funds tho - shrinking number of public companies/longer time to IPO decreases the opportunity set for public markets investors, easing the going public process increases the opportunity set 

 

This is more of a hit to institutional investors than banks. Banks still advise and collect fees on direct listings (albeit less fee pot in total to reward a large number of banks). It's good for financial markets to have traditional IPOs and direct listings, but there are reasons IPOs are structured the way they are. In a direct listing, you won't have the same price stabilization offered by an IPO, and you won't be able to build out a book of long term investors. IPOs are risky and direct listings are even more so. Pros and cons to be weighed, likely at the expense of hiring an investment bank. 

 

I view this as a good thing, more competition will cause those that add no value to exit/flounder and existing players to up their game as this somewhat decentralizes/disintermediates the process. much like investors deserve choice rather than having to use expensive brokerage houses as gatekeepers, companies seeking capital should have more options as well

 

If you want a fancy deck done, hire two consultants. If you want good advertising, hire an advertising firm. If you want to have your ass covered, hire a lawyer. Zero reason that ecm bankers get hired other than connections, and if you’re a high profile ipo, chances are in this market, you could get 3x subscribed with a business plan to light money on fire and sell the smoke (better plan than snowflake at least)

 

Neque itaque eum maxime in voluptatem et. Aut nisi rerum ullam dicta molestiae placeat ut. Rerum nesciunt qui sint nam sint reprehenderit. Consectetur fugit ut molestiae quod nobis.

Voluptatibus debitis officiis earum vero dolorem nihil iure. Corrupti porro ducimus perspiciatis officiis. Aut velit voluptatum vitae inventore. Explicabo qui reprehenderit labore beatae. Rerum ipsum nam rerum asperiores sit qui ut.

Quo quisquam aut voluptatibus doloremque quia. Assumenda tempora ut nihil quia. Saepe corrupti et expedita ipsa. Officia quam id id non harum adipisci voluptas.

Est sequi earum dolor nobis sequi soluta sapiente. Officia voluptatem repudiandae molestias. Cumque dolorem numquam rerum a.

Career Advancement Opportunities

June 2026 Investment Banking

  • Evercore 01 99.4%
  • Moelis & Company 01 98.9%
  • JPMorgan 01 98.3%
  • Guggenheim Partners 01 97.7%
  • Morgan Stanley 07 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

June 2026 Investment Banking

  • Moelis & Company No 99.4%
  • Morgan Stanley 02 98.8%
  • Evercore 01 98.3%
  • BMO Capital Markets 12 97.7%
  • Banco Santander 01 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

June 2026 Investment Banking

  • Evercore 01 99.4%
  • Moelis & Company 01 98.9%
  • Morgan Stanley 06 98.3%
  • Goldman Sachs 01 97.7%
  • JPMorgan No 97.1%

Total Avg Compensation

June 2026 Investment Banking

  • Vice President (15) $434
  • Associates (44) $258
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (8) $210
  • 2nd Year Analyst (22) $179
  • Intern/Summer Associate (13) $156
  • 1st Year Analyst (79) $150
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (73) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
3
kanon's picture
kanon
99.0
4
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
5
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
6
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
98.9
7
DrApeman's picture
DrApeman
98.9
8
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
9
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
10
bolo up's picture
bolo up
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”