Europe Uni Rankings
By no means does this show which uni is ‘more target’, but I gathered LinkedIn data on how many people form each uni work in the IBD at BB Banks.
LSE - 782 Bocconi - 407 HEC Paris - 264 LBS - 246 Oxford - 207 Cambridge - 188 St Gallen - 179 Warwick - 145 Imperial - 125 UCL - 107 ESSEC - 96 King’s - 91 EDHEC - 83 Durham - 65
Lots of problems with these numbers such as where the undergrad or MSc programs, no considerations for MM or EB firms, doesn’t account for hierarchy level in the IBD…
But you have at least an indication of how many people get into BBs after studying at these unis.
Even if it is widely acknowledged that Oxford is better than Bocconi for example, it is worth considering that you will be surrounded by students who want to get into IB which can help with networking opportunities - and the uni most likely has better links with these banks.
This is really flawed data. Firstly, alot of LSE's numbers will be coming from people who did summer schools there and keep it on their LinkedIn profiles (although LSE will still be the greatest placing school out of all of these due to the nature of the university) you also haven't filtered out postgraduate degrees - though you've acknowledged this. Many people do masters at other universities (including an MFin at Imperial) but did their undergrad elsewhere so this doesn't really help with undergrad ranking at all. I don't know what metric you have used but the numbers feel off, if you've done all time stats then UCL having 107 makes no sense: https://www.linkedin.com/school/university-college-london/people/?keywo… there are 150 at JP morgan alone with 100s more at other BBs, filter out people who don't label their positions right and it would still be above 107. For UK schools, this is a better source as it filters out postgrads and summer schools and is a snapshot of the last 3-5 years or so: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n1vLYhVzGB_g7_eJKCebn21C8dyb7x5r/view
Disagree with the "links to banks" spiel as far as London is concerned. Networking is always advisable but CV pushing/referral is not a big thing over here so your university brand is more important for getting through screens. Oxbridge will always be king at this in London.
Not sure having more people want to go to IBD is a better thing. Banking is not considered particularly prestigious by 99% of Oxbridge students whereas most Bocconi/LSE students are thinking of going into finance so the levels of competition from each group couldn't be more different
Ranking for what exactly?
Lmao, Go to one of the unis near the bottom half of that list and personally know more people at BBs than the number you give.
This ranking is stupid as schools have widely different sizes, focus, etc.
For example, Imperial is good in math and science and comparatively a bit less in business, does that mean that if you’re studying engineering at imperial you won’t land an IB job? No. However they have less applicants.
ie EDHEC is bigger than HEC hence a biased comparison. Also a good part of the French/regional students just go to their home countries hence a higher representation of U.K. unis.
LSE has plenty of summer school so this is biased. It is still in top tier though along with Oxbridge, LBS, HEC
As per school competition, it is a really bad metric as well... do you want to lead at a bad school or be in a top school bucket ? Lol. My firm didn’t seem to bother having 75% of SA coming from Oxbridge/LSE/LBS so you shouldn’t either ...
It is tiring for people to create so much ta long threads. There are lots of threads already. Go to a target school and you’ll be fine.
In most cases, I can’t remember if my colleagues went to Cambridge vs. Oxford, LSE vs LBS, etc. and I still sleep well at night
You missed a lot of schools. Try ESCP Europe Business School
Actually I have barely seen any ESCP Europe alumni in London. Same for ESSEC. Seems like everyone is from HEC (or Dauphine on the markets side), and the ESSEC ESCP ones probably stay in Paris, I don’t know...
A quick search on Linkedin and I find that there 46 people from ESCP at MS London, 19 from ESSEC and 40 from HEC. It's more of less the same for the other BBs. I agree that ESSEC doesn't have many tho. ESCP should be around the same as HEC.
Crap "ranking"...
Who wants to do BB IB these days anyway lol. WSO is stuck in 2010. Do a boutique IB/Consulting role then exit into PE/VC/whatever. More pay, more to learn, less hours, less bs.
But to be honest the cream of uni graduates won't give a shit about IB or consulting, it won't count as 'presitgious' to them. Rather, they will launch their own company or join a fast-growing startup/scaleup. If anything, I would look at total funds raised by startups to rank unis.
Did this guy just say less hours at boutiques ?
Startup tech isn’t great at entry level, you’re basically in sales or account management. Better to lateral to a strategic position
I have worked at 2 boutiques in two different countries. I can confidently say that I worked considerably less than my BB peers.
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