Hello monkeys,
So the investment club I'm currently a part of in my university has a few BB bank visits in a few days. My question is, as a freshman, how do I make use of this opportunity as much as possible?
What to talk about? Things that are easily available on the internet? (like let's say, dates for recruitment, sophomore insight program details, daily tasks of the person at work?)
How to stand out from others? Do you go for the elevator pitch?
Is it generally a good idea to ask about, more working hours? Quality of life? Or are these things just taboos that shouldn't be talked about?
I'm thinking about ending every conversation with: "It was great talking to you. I really enjoyed learning more about you and your bank. Could I get your contact info to ask you for more details later on?" Do you guys think this is appropriate? Or is it a bit pushy?
Basically, the bottom line here is, how to network as a freshman in these BB bank visits? What should I do and what shouldn't I do?
Thanks for the reply! Definitely keeping these in mind.
Get the other person to talk about themselves. Bankers love to do that. You can then steer the conversation and make it more engaging. People want a conversation with a normal person, particularly if you can find common interests. Don't pitch yourself.
Got it. Would a question like, let's say, "What do you usually do in the weekends to relieve stress from the job?", be a good conversation starter for these bankers to talk about themselves?
Don't focus it on stress. Just say something like "I understand that you work long hours, but what do you do when you aren't working?"
You probably aren't going to stand out as a genius unless you did something really cool pre-college.
I think you shouldn't be asking us here on the forum and getting spergy social tips. Instead find a good book that covers active listening and learn how to ask good questions.
Reads books on active listening; Still doesn't get laid in college. Sad!
I feel like it's pretty NF to obsess as much as you do over Attack_Chihuahua .
Shouldn't you be polishing your paddle for optimal fanny smacking next rush season?
EDIT: Monkey Shit? Uh oh, did someone forget to tell whoever threw the poo to lighten up and take a joke while they were memorizing the Greek alphabet?
If you threw this shit, you should feel bad about being so insecure that you have to exact e-vengeance on me for offending your delicate sense of self. Letting a geed get under your skin and make you behave petty? Very NF, bro.
LIFE OF FRAT LORD:
First this:
Then this:
And after that, came this:
Your life's so NF boi. Go away. Disappear.
Many things are on topic. But also think about what you want to take away from the event. For example, ask about the product / industry they cover. It will be a great chance to learn more about the firm, industry and team. This will put you in a great position for your interviews later.
Really about building rapport. Either you have a few common interests that makes you memorable or you don't. Obviously being good at building rapport helps here.
Would say no, not unless you have already built rapport.
Sure, and just ask for a business card. Please don't forget the name and product/sector the person is covering. You can be sure that someone will ask for these things later.
To sum up, use the event as what it is - a great way to learn about the firm, some of the products they offer and the sectors they cover, etc. With some people, you will build rapport and with some you won’t, which I guess is just something you will have to accept. Most importantly, do not give them a reason to outright dislike you.
Read the book "Never Eat Alone"
sneak away from the tour and create your own adventure
These people are normal humans. Do not overthink.
Correction - these people are self-obsessed normal humans. Do your research, don't ask them stuff that's found on the net, and always ALWAYS connect with upper management over analysts.
I've only been in the industry for a few years, so take what I say with a grain of salt. I've met far more normal people in finance than your prototypical self absorbed person.
Maybe I've just been lucky.
Major do NOT do:
Eat at a shady food truck, get food poisoning, puke in an office trash can, and then walk out the front door carrying a trash can full of puke.
True story.
Company visit (Originally Posted: 01/21/2018)
Hi, I am currently doing my masters in finance. I have company visits to wall street firms soon. Is it possible to land jobs during company visits?
no
What to do at company profile visit? (Originally Posted: 09/01/2007)
Does anyone have any tips to land an interview at a Bain & Co. company profile visit on campus? It's even more difficult when i'm not a student at that campus (I'm student at non-targeted university).Anything would be helpful. Thanks
There's nothing you can do, interview slots are tough for students at the target school, why would you think that they would cut you some slack coming from a non-target?
Don't let being non-target discourage you from applying. One of my M/B/B colleagues was from a non-target. But he crashed a Stanford recruiting visit and spoke to MBB recruiters. He ended up applying online just like the other candidates, and ended up with an offer.
Now, I am not advocating every man and his dog apply to M/B/B. Although my friend was from a non-target, he had a stellar resume.
As for how to behave. Just act normal. Do ask questions, but be humble. I know it sounds simple, but you'd be amazed how some otherwise smart applicants try to show off their intelligence, name drop, get into stupid arguments with the recruiter, etc.
The one attitude to avoid is the "why should I work for your firm?", "convince me to apply to your firm", or variants. At least for me, anyone with that arrogant attitude will get a guaranteed "x" next to his/her name on the signin sheet.
Marathoner is right, I thought OP was referring to getting an interview directly through OCR at a target. I definitely think that online submissions aren't a dead end if you have a ridiculous resume.
I had a friend who applied online to BCG from a great school (just not a target for BCG), he had a 4.0/4.0 (one A- all of college), big 4 internship in London junior year. He got a call to come in for an interview literally the next day, but he didn't make it past the first round.
Thanks for the advices. Very helpful.
Visiting some trading firms, any advice? (Originally Posted: 03/09/2010)
So next week I'm going to see both a buy side and sell side trading firm. The visit was set up by a networking contact who won't be there with me. Any advice, tips, do/don'ts?
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