Good MDs vs Mediocre/Bad MDs

Other than bringing in M&A revenue, what separates the “good” MDs from the rest of the pack? If you’re an MD at a big balance sheet bank, if you bring in no M&A but latch onto financing/equity packages, are you essentially replaceable? What justifies paying these bankers $1m+?

What proportion of MDs are good/difference makers vs not? Is the whole key of building a successful IB franchise attracting the difference-making MDs that  do M&A, and everything else is a immaterial? What am I missing?

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Good MDs stand out from mediocre or bad ones based on several key factors beyond just bringing in M&A revenue. Here's a breakdown based on the most helpful WSO content:

What Separates Good MDs from the Rest?

  1. Deal Sourcing and Client Relationships:

    • Good MDs excel at sourcing deals and maintaining strong client relationships. They are the rainmakers who bring in business consistently, which is the primary expectation for MDs.
    • Mediocre MDs may rely on the bank's balance sheet or existing client relationships without adding significant value themselves.
  2. Team Leadership and Mentorship:

    • Strong MDs invest in their teams, providing guidance, transparency, and opportunities for growth. They ensure juniors understand the bigger picture and feel valued.
    • Bad MDs neglect their teams, fail to communicate effectively, and create a toxic or unproductive work environment.
  3. Execution and Delegation:

    • Good MDs delegate 80-90% of deal execution to their VPs and associates, stepping in only when necessary. This allows them to focus on high-level strategy and client interactions.
    • Mediocre MDs may micromanage or fail to oversee execution properly, leading to inefficiencies.
  4. Adaptability and Strategic Thinking:

    • Top MDs anticipate potential roadblocks and navigate complex situations effectively. They bring unique ideas and strategies to the table, especially in M&A or structuring deals.
    • Mediocre MDs often lack foresight and rely heavily on their teams to cover for their shortcomings.
  5. Reputation and Influence:

    • Good MDs build a reputation for delivering results and being reliable. They are often sought after by other banks or boutiques, which justifies their high compensation.
    • Mediocre MDs may struggle to justify their pay if they fail to bring in business or add value.

Are MDs Who Rely on Financing/Equity Packages Replaceable?

  • MDs at big balance sheet banks who focus on financing or equity packages can still justify their roles if they effectively leverage the bank's global capabilities to win deals. However, they are often seen as less critical compared to those who bring in unique M&A or structuring ideas.
  • These MDs are more replaceable because their success is tied to the bank's platform rather than their individual talents or relationships.

What Justifies Paying MDs $1M+?

  • The justification lies in their ability to generate revenue, maintain client relationships, and lead teams effectively. Even MDs who don't bring in M&A deals can earn $1-2 million annually if they contribute to the bank's overall success through financing or other services.
  • However, MDs who fail to produce consistently or add value are quickly let go, as the industry is highly performance-driven.

Proportion of Good vs. Mediocre MDs

  • The proportion of "difference-making" MDs is relatively small. For every top-tier MD who drives significant revenue and builds the bank's franchise, there are several who struggle to make a meaningful impact.
  • Attracting and retaining these top MDs is crucial for building a successful IB franchise. They are the ones who bring in the big deals and set the tone for the firm's success.

Key Takeaway

While M&A revenue is a major differentiator, good MDs bring much more to the table, including leadership, strategic thinking, and client management. Building a successful IB franchise requires a mix of rainmakers and strong team players, but the rainmakers are undoubtedly the cornerstone of success.

Sources: Is it difficult at all to become a Managing Director in IB?, Hallmarks of a Strong MD, https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-banking/qa-md-in-ma-and-capital-markets-with-bulge-bracket-and-boutique-experience?customgpt=1, Questions about VP/D/MD levels at investment banks, BB vs EB total compensation

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I can’t speak to comp mechanics, but I’ve seen what separates a great MD from an average one. 

A great coverage MD is basically an industry insider. They know exactly which strategics or sponsors are ready to buy or sell and can broker introductions months before a formal process exists. After a meeting with them I walk away with either (i) a clearer understanding of the sector or (ii) a short list of targets that line up with our mandate even if nothing is actionable today. Poor/Average MDs on the other hand bring up the same 3-4 idea that every other freaking banker brings up and can't even speak to it in depth even though they 'know the company and 'know the team'. 

Process-wise, PE shops don’t need bankers for the model, but a good MD can squeeze another .5-1x turn of EBITDA in a process (at the MF level this could be $100m+ of value leading to $3-5M more for the bankers). So imagine you're a MD at GS and running a ~$3bn sell-side for a MF. and assume a 1% fee (=$30M fee for the bank). Now imagine if the MD is really good and can sell that asset for $3.1bn or heck even $3.2bn well now the bank is getting $32M and effectively the MD just paid his base salary + a bit of bonus just with that extra squeeze. 

Interestingly enough, at the MF level you have to dance with the BBs. We’ve got 30-plus portcos that all need financing, so the relationship is inherently quid-pro-quo. Example: a few years ago we sold a ~$2 bn asset and put GS, MS, and DB in the bake-off. Interns on WSO will assume GS or MS would easily win the mandate, but we chose DB. We’d skipped them on a huge IPO and they helped us with financing in the last couple years lol so this was a way to 'get back'. I personally thought the MD at GS/MS were stronger but the DB MD wasn't bad either. Had he been a total bozo we wouldn’t have bothered but just comes to show firm-level politics (and a little luck) still matter.

A bit of a ramble but hope its some helpful color

 

Can confirm on the aspect of picking banks: this is how it works. Mildly frustrating on the portco perspective as sometimes you get bankers of questionable quality from like RBC/WF (no offense to either, just examples) running your buyside deals because they lent a bunch of money to your sponsor. Huge difference in quality between bankers on buy-side processes for things like roll-ups: there's a reason sometimes winning bids are much higher in terms of EBITDA (yes, sometimes it's because the firm wants an asset, but oftentimes it's because the buy-side banker isn't that great). Think on the sell-side, less often do actually bad bankers get the role, usually a difference between great vs good MDs. Nobody is giving a sell-side to a banker who doesn't know the market super-well because of a bank's lending due to how much influence a few turns of EBITDA for a sell-side process has for a sponsor, but sometimes sponsors will give buy-side mandates for lending relationships, especially for portco acquisitions/smaller stuff.

Edit: just to clarify, there are indeed great MDs at non-top BB/EBs. These do indeed win buyside/sellside deals not based on lending relationships as well, but on ideas/relationships. There are subverticals where the top bank isn't one of the top BB/EBs for a reason. Yes, DB has great MDs who are rockstars/rainmakers, it's not like joining DB is going to magically make you go from a great MD to a not great MD. Just giving personal experience here that the case of banks winning deals solely for lending relationships is a thing.

 

Wouldn't say that per se. It's not like Sponsors are trusting mediocre MDs on their large-cap buyside's either, or initial PE portco acquisitions, either. Remember the two most important numbers for PE are entry and exit numbers. As a banker, it's also a case of building creds, you are chosen for mandates on relationships + creds, and the smaller stuff is still super helpful for MDs as it gives them creds.

All individual talent in banking can be boiled down solely into relationships, both with the proposed client and across the industry. It's also not like sell-side advisors aren't selected based on lending relationships at times either, and there are very often  "advisors" listed on a deal who, by all accounts, are solely providing financing and receiving an M&A tip because of either a great relationship or previous free support from that bank. 

Look, ultimately, only one thing matters for a senior: how much revenue you bring in and what the total EV you brought in is. The latter is more so for the senior's career for establishing creds for future deals and future career moves. 

 

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