How do you guys get called out on mistakes? Opinion needed
1st year coverage an 1 at DB/UBS
9/10 people I work with do it like this, simple pdf comments like: “
“Please double check figures”” “Fix number here” “Please make sure this not going off line” “Please make sure everything aligned” “Reformat, looks squished” “please Make sure numbers tie”
Are a few random examples. As you can see, they are all really nice.
Now I have one person that instead, and doesn’t even email me just straight up pings me on teams directly just says stuff like:
“Walked this through with you on phone, how is it wrong??
“What is going on here?? What happened?”
“how have you not learned we do it like x not y”
“Did someone really not teach you this yet”?
“Why is this like this?????”
“Why are you using this number and not this????”
Like what am I suppose to say bro like its a mistake my bad lol why are you playin this question game when we know its wrong, you’ve worked 100+ hours for years you are so used to everything I’m literally brand new… And we all know this job is hard and blows so why act like this and add to the miserableness… Am I a pussy for thinking this is lowkey rude and the other route of pointing out mistakes up top is 10x better and preferred or I guess is this normal banking culture I should be expecting and I am definitely over reacting.
Beat his ass
With no other context, he's being a dick for sure.
OR, that's what happened to him and he doesn't know any better. You'll learn that they don't teach people how to manage on wall street, they teach you that if you throw a tantrum, you get what you want.
However, I can see it's coming from a place of frustration - so it may be worthwhile to actually discuss this with him when he gets all pissy.
When you get the first dickish message, reply and ask to hop on the phone to walk through it.
He may think you're either not listening or half-assing it, so get on the phone and hear him out, make the changes quickly, then get it back out.
Be the bigger man, take his feedback, and fix it. If it keeps happening, then you need to either start communicating earlier, or legitimately sit with him and get him to shell out the materials. Then when he's an ass, you can show him what he drew up and ask about the changes.
Shit on his keyboard
Shove ur foot up his ass
In short, he or she is likely an asshole (would bet with 99% confidence it is a he). I worked for someone like this and it was a biproduct of two things:
1. No exposure to working with juniors and had never gotten the feedback that they were an asshole to work with. They either didnt know or didnt care. I was an Analyst and when asked why I wouldnt stay on by the Associates I was close with, I made it pretty clear that working with one Associate completely ruined my experience, and I had known the next six months would be spent working through a live deal with the same douchebag Associate. Years later, a friend worked for this same guy and stated he was cool and "chill". I spit out my coffee when he said this. I couldnt fucking believe it. The same guy who made my life hell for 6+ months??? The same guy who, upon finding me with down time during the day, would force me to do paper LBOs and ridicule me when I couldnt get it right on the second try, having only learned the basics 30 minutes before? I was blown away. I believe the change in management style was a biproduct of then negative feedback I had shared with other Associates in confidence, that at some point, was passed along to him and he simply had no idea. Regardless, I dont think he changed his management style because he was a stand up guy. I believe he changed his tune because eventually VPs found out why I left, and after that he was not allowed to work with Analysts for a few months after that lmao.
2. They were extremely good at their job. Hate to say it, but this guy picked things up IMMEDIATELY. When you are extremely smart and things come naturally to you, you cant believe other people arent as efficient / smart / capable of executing as you. Like I think he thought I was just a mixture of dumb and lazy. I am no Albert Einstein, but I have received solid feedback from almost anyone I have ever worked with for 3+ months. Yet this dude made me consider leaving IB, left me thinking I was actually too dumb.
Keep your head up man, and dont take it personally, the guy is just an asshole with little to no limited managerial skills.
Did you even double check your work before sending??? I'm not reviewing any more of this until you've double checked !!!!! I'm not going to hold your hand all night, let me know if i need to get someone else to do this.
Bro my bad the column header wasn't center aligned