Regardless of whether it was your fault or not, how often does someone write you an angry email, rase their voice at you (on the phone or in person), or just make you feel like shit in some way? How soon before you first got chewed out? Really curious what people’s experience is with this over the last couple years.
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Don't get chewed out but I constantly get useless lectures from my shitty associate at 2am in the morning about some irrevlant shit
Or a “you did this wrong, I’m gonna have to completely re-do it” and then they change like 1 little thing
😂😂😂 bwahahaha
I got an email from a VP saying "hey this was not good, do better" and then I got staffed off the deal and haven't been on anything since. This was in early November.
can’t say I’m complaining lol
Sounds ideal
At least you’ll have enjoyed your last few months before unemployment
Better than slaving away with pretentious losers everyday just to make 20 bucks an hour given hours worked.
Hopefully you were planning on leaving because that's the surest sign of the axe...
... what do you do everyday?
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Damn that's awful man, honestly, it blows my mind that grow-ass adults think it's acceptable to yell or just be a general dick to new analysts. Haven't experienced it myself but I'm sorry that you had to.
I hear you, I also had incompetent political dogs as line managers before
Sounds like Citi
Got yelled at in the second week of my summer internship by a bitchy analyst, made me hate banking from day one.
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Training week 1, ever thought of that?
Sounds like it was the analyst's problem and not yours fam
Never got screamed/yelled at. TBH never even saw anyone yelling at someone in the office. Heard MDs shouting in their offices but that's about it.
On a tangent how do people deal with rude, offensive people according to whom they work the hardest, its all your fault and they can never do anything wrong? Asking this cause it seems most banks are filled with such people.
actually had a sports coach like this - funny enough he never got passed the second round of the playoffs with any team he had in his 20 years of coaching and trust me, he has had SO MUCH talent in his hands.
Moving that experience to the business realm, I would be extremely optimistic and try to look at every obstacle as a way to get better/improve in one facet of your life, whether it be hard skills or soft skills. Because at the end of the day, walking away from people with that demeanor leaves you with tough skin and an arrogant flair that you can handle life's shit, if you have the right mindset.
Or just leave honestly no one is stopping you as an adult.
Maybe I’m just soft but I’ve never understood these people who almost seem to prefer being constantly miserable and nasty to others. I can’t identify with that mentality in the slightest. Is the incremental productivity really worth the constant stress and tension? We all have one life and the profession certainly dominates it, so why choose to make it hell for ourselves and others?
I wish more people would think like this. I think it must be the stress they are getting from above them that is getting translated to stamping on those below them. Quite unfair to be used as a punchbag like this.
Good on you for having good personal qualities that some others lack.
couple evenings ago.
"the model is completely busted how could you not catch this"
**one line item out of like 400 representing maybe 1% of total expenses was being counted as a double negative**
"fixed it sorry about that, no material changes thankfully"
"how you could you miss that? this is going to investors, you can't keep fucking up things like this or ill get another analyst to figure it out"
**output ends up never being sent to anyone other than the associate**
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Theres nothing more annoying than associates complaining about having to proofread. If they didn’t do that then I’m pretty sure their job would just be to coordinate via email.
Never. I am fortunate enough to work under a group of about four MDs who are very respectful and would rather help me learn rather than rip me apart if I miss something. Of course they sometimes get annoyed when I fuck up something obvious but these are never repeat mistakes so once it is fixed, its done. Two of these guys started as analysts at the firm, and we have associates, VPs, and directors on the team who also started as analysts, so I think internal retention is valued on my team and it shows in the culture. It is kind of like a "we've all been there" type situation. I think they know I try my best and generally do a pretty decent job, so there would really be no point on shitting on me for something minor. Like why bother? You'll get the result from just telling me or helping me understand it that you would from getting furious, plus by being normal, I'll like you more and actually want to work hard to help you.
Never, I've gotten constructive feedback before or maybe some raised voices / harsher tones but nothing that made me feel any particular way. The one time my blood turned cold was when my boss said he was taking $20k off my 2nd year analyst bonus for not having a great tone with the interns / 1st years. That's what happens when you work at a MM with trouble retaining talent lmao, gotta talk to each other like we're at a country club, not that I've ever been to one.
Did your boss actually do it?
Most unfortunately yes, he told me that as he gave me my bonus lol like great work man, accrue feedback and give it AFTER I get my bonus and no longer want to be there lol
Happened to my buddy almost every day at a previous bank he worked for. He was shouted at by one person in particular all the time
1x a day. It’s terrible feeling. Making me stronger hopefully but depleting my self confidence in a way.
"If you make another mistake I'll chop your hands off"
"You are absolutely worthless and should find another line of work" (most memorable part of a 10-minute explosion)
"I'm not even going to read past the title page. Clearly, you didn't read my comments"
"What is this? This isn't what I asked for..." (usually followed up by a rant about analyst/associate quality)
"Where the fuck is our food?" (to an analyst prior to a sales meeting)
"This motherfucker..." (said when happy and angry)
**Incoherent Roaring**
Thankfully, these are all things I've heard said to other people by one MD on my old team. I think he was the only one on our team who actually chewed people out on the reg (always memorable and probably every other week). He was definitely my champion in recruiting and during bonus season. I only got chewed out by my global head, twice during my two years and very publicly.
Did any of the other analysts learn how to translate the incoherent roaring? lmao
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