I worked at GS and it's easily done internally... you lose a year but with enough persistence and the fact you've already gotten an IBD offer, you can easily network your way in. Most on this forum will probably laugh at this answer, but if you really want the GS brand it's a decent backdoor instead of leaving some of the process to chance taking the front door.
I really hope you're trolling as you there's no remote defense for GS compliance over Jefferies IB. I feel very confident saying that even as a college student. There seems to be some very dumb brand allegiance on this forum. Also, it's way fucking easier to go to GS IB from Jefferies IB than from GS compliance in pretty much any context.
This is not true at all. I've spoken with numerous people at GS and they've told me internal lateraling is frowned upon, especially if you're trying to go from back office to front office. It's so frowned upon, that you might end up getting a bad PE and stern scolding from your manager, which my result in you getting canned.
You can corroborate what I'm saying by googling it, and checking it out on glassdoor
Jefferies has a great reputation, and if you don't like it after a year, you should have no problem at all at switching banks. The role that you're doing is more important than the name of the firm. You can be a janitor at Goldman Sachs, doesn't mean any other firm will hire you as an IB analyst.
I hope these kids are being sarcastic ... If this isnt a troll post, its 10000000% Jefferies IB.
Jefferies is a name brand bank, and is BANKING, compliance regardless of names isnt close in terms of job prestige/exits unless that's what you wanna do long-term
"Your career center wants you to take the Goldman offer because they can publish it as a firm that employs students of your school. They don't have to publish what role their students had at Goldman. It's a selfish stance on their part.
Yea convinced he's either troll or actually delusional (always goes on some tangent about he's just waiting for a million dollar contract with citadel to clear lmao) also was convinced that most SA would lose their jobs and that FT conversions were "100% no possibility" and then went on some rant about at-will employment in the US idek lmao
What is trolling about my comment exactly? I clearly said "Devil's advocate"? I'm confused why you continue to pick fights as an intern.
JPM just posted a 70% fall in profit and 95% decline in consumer business. Let me be honest with you: your internships are no longer anyone's priority.
If our internships weren't some sort of priority then they would have already cancelled but banks are now scrambling and doing their best to ensure at least a virtual internship. You've been wrong so many times at this point that I don't even know why you feel the need to keep talking. Good luck with your "KKR deal" cause honestly if you actually work at Citadel and are consistently this wrong you're actually gonna need it.
Jeffries IB is a no brainer. Start networking with GS folks, especially when you’re paired up on deals with them.
It really takes a miracle to switch over to front office from compliance. I also cant think of any real transferable skill for IB you could get out it.
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No brainer. GS compliance.
Is this a troll lmao
Devil's advocate. If you know what you're doing you can network into GS IBD after 2 years. Same as lateraling to a better shop.
Thank you Mr. @pussygalore - that was my thought process.
I worked at GS and it's easily done internally... you lose a year but with enough persistence and the fact you've already gotten an IBD offer, you can easily network your way in. Most on this forum will probably laugh at this answer, but if you really want the GS brand it's a decent backdoor instead of leaving some of the process to chance taking the front door.
I really hope you're trolling as you there's no remote defense for GS compliance over Jefferies IB. I feel very confident saying that even as a college student. There seems to be some very dumb brand allegiance on this forum. Also, it's way fucking easier to go to GS IB from Jefferies IB than from GS compliance in pretty much any context.
Is S&T a dying industry?
This is not true at all. I've spoken with numerous people at GS and they've told me internal lateraling is frowned upon, especially if you're trying to go from back office to front office. It's so frowned upon, that you might end up getting a bad PE and stern scolding from your manager, which my result in you getting canned.
You can corroborate what I'm saying by googling it, and checking it out on glassdoor
Jefferies has a great reputation, and if you don't like it after a year, you should have no problem at all at switching banks. The role that you're doing is more important than the name of the firm. You can be a janitor at Goldman Sachs, doesn't mean any other firm will hire you as an IB analyst.
quarantine troll
I hope these kids are being sarcastic ... If this isnt a troll post, its 10000000% Jefferies IB.
Jefferies is a name brand bank, and is BANKING, compliance regardless of names isnt close in terms of job prestige/exits unless that's what you wanna do long-term
obviously Goldman- work your way to front office- better than jefferies any day
Y’all are fucking idiots. The answer is obviously Jefferies compliance.
Easiest way to get there is to start in Goldman IBD and lateral to JEF compliance
Tobin & Co. compliance
DickFuld had a great comment about a similar situation in this post: https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/jefferies-ib-vs-stifel-ib-vs-gol…
"Your career center wants you to take the Goldman offer because they can publish it as a firm that employs students of your school. They don't have to publish what role their students had at Goldman. It's a selfish stance on their part.
Take an actual IB offer, not ops."
Yep - to be clear, actual answer is 100% Jefferies IB, hands down, every single time. GS compliance is a terrible choice in comparison.
It's pretty obvious everyone is trolling here chill lmao (except Pussy galore who genuinely has some of the worst takes I've ever seen on this site).
am 95% convinced @jessivey is the female alter ego of @Pussy galore
both of them talk big shit about GS and are "working at" / "going to" citadel
Yea convinced he's either troll or actually delusional (always goes on some tangent about he's just waiting for a million dollar contract with citadel to clear lmao) also was convinced that most SA would lose their jobs and that FT conversions were "100% no possibility" and then went on some rant about at-will employment in the US idek lmao
What is trolling about my comment exactly? I clearly said "Devil's advocate"? I'm confused why you continue to pick fights as an intern.
JPM just posted a 70% fall in profit and 95% decline in consumer business. Let me be honest with you: your internships are no longer anyone's priority.
If our internships weren't some sort of priority then they would have already cancelled but banks are now scrambling and doing their best to ensure at least a virtual internship. You've been wrong so many times at this point that I don't even know why you feel the need to keep talking. Good luck with your "KKR deal" cause honestly if you actually work at Citadel and are consistently this wrong you're actually gonna need it.
Jeffries IB is a no brainer. Start networking with GS folks, especially when you’re paired up on deals with them.
It really takes a miracle to switch over to front office from compliance. I also cant think of any real transferable skill for IB you could get out it.
How about Citadel HR?
KKR Janitorial Services
if i can't make it to the REAL ESTATE team at least I can still be around them
lol
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