Microfinance: Predatory?

So let's say a tiny business in Sub Saharan Africa needs funds to grow. Let's say they are trying to grow corn seasonally. It has 0 operating history, other than perhaps minimal revenue for the past year.

How on earth do these microfinance corporations go about setting lending criteria, and securitize these investments with such small, early-stage companies?

How do they expect a business to pay back these loans when they are charging 20%+ interest on loans? Are there any fintech products that help tiny businesses grow past just covering Opex?

Can an IB skill set help here? Wondering if anyone knows anything about this topic. Someone mentioned it to me and now I am keen to learn more. Microfinance just seems like a giant cesspool from my reading.

Feels like this is a sector of finance where a lot of good can be done, but a lot of non-corporate finance practitioners in International Development run the show. Am I wrong?

 

From what I have seen, often the government of the country receiving the $$ may provide some guaranty to the international lender to insentivize business development. Now, if it is a Sub Saharan African country you'll need to weigh how good their word/credit history is.

There was some Canadian firm that used to provide loans to sub African start ups - business like funding a chicken egg farm. Sometimes the government may also be in partnership with a UK based trade organization that can assist with the loan guaranty/insurance to sweeten it for the lender.

 
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Been a long long time, my knowledge is dated, so take with a grain of salt. Excuse the stream of consciousness, trying to squeeze this in before my next call.

There are a lot of fucking grifters but the genuine microfinanciers lend to the truly truly unbankable. The kind of people that no financial institution on the planet would even look at. I'm talking ultra poor with no assets or collateral, day laborers around the absolute poverty line (like making a dollar a day). These people borrow to buy maybe a head or two of livestock, set up a kitchen garden to sell vegetables and real microenterprise type shit.

There is no real mechanism to hedge credit risk, at least not in the ways that a regular lender would. I mean you can seize the collateral, but what the hell are you as a lender going to do with maybe two goats and a seasonal vegetable garden. The most creative mechanism I saw was really pooling. A lender would have borrowers form groups and lend into those rather than individuals. Monitoring etc. were all done on a group level. And weirdly, it worked. Generally lower default rates than single borrowers. The concept was that members of the group would keep each other in line. Still obviously really shitty credit but IMO, not a line you get into for good risk-adjusted return.

As someone else pointed out, cost of capital is fucking high. Some of the older MFIs actually allow borrower pools to make deposits for on lending, but I understand it used to be mostly equity. Op costs are fucking high too. You literally have to hire teams to go village to village, community to community, checking up on borrowers. Depending on scale, this data collection is massive manual effort. Management of this data is a massive manual effort. There is also an element of education, teaching borrowers basic financial management, basics of running a business etc. All of this really drives up the cost of capital.

Have worked on a securitization deal for microfinance back in the analyst days. Was a fucking pain in the ass even just collating details of the underlying pools, like holy fuck. Was a really really cool deal but ultimately takeup was into real specialist types, not any traditional hedge funds or institutions.

 

Because a lot of these "microfinance" loans are basically grants in disguise. Like lending to a student who goes to a shit private school and majors in Communications only for the government to forgive his loan two years after graduation anyway.

From my understanding, in Africa specifically, microfinance has been found to be woefully ineffective relative to just giving out small grants.

 

It is predatory but let’s be real here. Chase isn’t going to open a branch in Xbukunlumpinto to fund some farmers. It could though. Lending is a very simple business because you can make money lending to anyone. All you have to do is make sure your interest rate is higher than your default rate.

However I believe the issue here is prestige. Good bankers, as in the ones who already have money and have no need to extort poor people in Africa, like their comfy jobs in big cities. Offer anyone in WSO double their comp to go open a microfinance branch of their bank in rural India and 100% of them would turn it down because Chad, Brett and Trent from his MBA class would all make fun of him.

Therefore the market is completely lacking real bankers. All that is left is shady money. Money from ex-(or current) druglords, warlords, corrupt politicians, etc. It now gets invested in some weird microfinance fund and because no one would want to do that job, the only people who get in are also people with shady backgrounds. People who would not pass a background check at any proper corporation. If a couple of decades pass eventually the fund becomes a bit more professional. They may even hire locals. But the reality is that no one would want to work in microfinance if they had any alternatives. It is just a cycle of misery.

 

I advised a Cambodian non-profit with a microfinance program a few years back. From what I saw, it wasn't predatory at all. The rates were crazy high, but there was an incredible amount of competition. There is a ton of money available to legit MF programs. At least in Cambodia, the industry is starting to consolidate and inefficiently run programs are no longer able to compete. The spectrum of sophistication is incredible. The top programs operate like banks - we had one guy and an Excel sheet. Nobody ever paid us back because the collector was friends with all the town people. I tried to help but it was too late. We closed our lending arm down and it was a great thing, this is exactly what markets are meant to do. That money can now flow to better operators.

The gold standard in microfinance is Grameen Bank. They not only track financial returns, but Progress Out of Poverty (PPI), As another user said, they utilize group loans with self help groups and training. Savings is incorporated as well. When done correctly, it's an amazing program. Very few groups operate like Grameen do, however. 

 

As a person from a place with a lot of Microfinance institutions, it's 2 things.

1. The amounts are usually quite small. So a high-interest rate of ~20% wouldn't be that difficult to pay back if the total loan amount is 100-1000.

2. The main recipients of Microfinance loans are by far farmers who are completely unbanked. But, just because they're unbanked doesn't mean they don't make decent money.

I wouldn't say it's predatory at all, just that higher interest rates are the norm in these countries and that it's difficult to accurately assess the credit worthiness.

 

My grandfather runs an informal credit shop in southeast Asia which he inherited. So informal credit in agriculture is a 40-50 billion-dollar market in southeast Asia, these farmers won't go to microfinance companies or banks since they have no official credit history and are unaware of any cheaper options. 

What lenders do is buy the farmers basic necessities like the seeds and fertilizers (which the lenders themselves buy on credit and is cheaper in bulk) and then they give that to farmers with some cash for irrigation and miscellaneous expenses 

Farmer is obliged to sell their agricultural produce through the lender,

At the time of harvest, the lender's operational arm sells the agricultural produce, then the lender recoups the original loan amount, then the lender takes a fixed commission at 8%-20% and then a variable commission on sales price ( better the crop price more the commission )

mostly commodities are inflation-adjusted but the lenders make sure that if there is any currency devaluation, they charge fees and adjust for that 

After that, they check their credit books and see whether the farmer owed them money in the past where he might have defaulted and deduct money if they have and after that due diligence, they transfer the farmer what they are owed 

this cycle enforces farmers to be dependent on lenders and they get crumbs for their effort, the farmers get enough to survive 

lenders are usually making $400,000 to $10,000,000 depending on the initial amount loaned 

The Government doesn't regulate it and since the business is mostly in cash so they are no taxes paid by the lender 

The Default rates are in single-digits 

 

The issue is underwriting costs. You have to go from the capital city...drive several hours away potential to deploy very small dollar amounts. Therefore its not overly predatory in that regard. Its not like many of these lenders are squeezing the small guy. Underwriting costs are just high on a relative basis and those need to be recouped. Also the alternative would more expensive loan sharks. Another point would be that these aren't businesses with low return returns. It can be something as simple as buying milk to make yogurt to sell in your town where the margins are 50%. Overall the reality is this is better than any alternatives. 

 

Nobody's just gonna admit none of us know anything about microfinance?

 

A couple of thoughts:

Defaults rates are high, hence high interest rates.

Correct, the folks that go into Microfinance have a different drive than us. I will need to charge 10,000 basis points on every deal to survive, so wouldn't work.

The hardest part of finance for most / a lot of world is guaranteeing payment.

People don't have a similar morality to Americans and don't care about their reputation or credit, so the incentive model is totally different. You need to see the world with a different lens.

(Unless it is their neighbor, then informal finance systems work, you do m need to maintain a steadfast commitment to your local community, but if you are 5000 miles, you are out of luck)

 

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