Morgan Stanley Best IB Group

Hey Folks, I was lucky enough to land an offer at MS IB. I'd like to place into a top group... the only problem is I don't know what the top groups are. There's a thread from 2013 that has some rankings, but that's literally 8 years old as of now. Let's fix that with this new thread.

Questions for here:

  1. What are the top performing MS IB groups?
  2. What groups place the best into PE // have the best exit opps?
  3. What groups have the best MDs and leadership?

(all in reference to NY office)

Much appreciated!


 

Does anyone know if bonuses vary by group or is it just split in a pool? And any ideas on bonus range for a first year?

 

Not sure if it was all superdays, but I know two rounds were held this past Thursday and Friday. Offer notification in the day after. Given, that could just be for a subset of target schools

 

How soon did they contact you for a 1st round after you submitted HV? And did you have exploding offers? Congrats btw. 

 

Another commenter or two have sort of outlined this, but M&A and GPUG are exceptionally strong at MS. The guys whom I know in GPUG have said that they are a bit siloed regarding exit opps (compared to other coverage groups), while M&A leaves you with more options but less subject matter expertise with particular industry dynamics. Congrats on the offer!

 

Only thing I will say is that the idea that GPUG analysts are siloed in terms of exit options is fundamentally false. In the last 5 or 6 years, there have been maybe two analysts that actually went to infrastructure PE - tons of exits to New Mountain, TA Associates, Carlyle (non-infra), Lindsay Goldberg, etc... The group has a strong reputation with a broad network, and it is a complete misconception that it silos junior people on exit. 

 

Practically speaking, unless you attend a target for the group, you will have a very very tough time getting into top groups. A friend has told me about how her process unfolded fir placement and it’s hard for sure

 

Candidly speaking, there’s a general acceptance from alum perspectives that the culture in a lot of groups is poor, you don’t model, pay sucks, and it’s hard to get into a great group via networking unless you’re lucky. Honestly not even worth going for M&A just to waste time networking and a valuable ranking space.

Go hard for mid-tier groups with the best culture you can find (culture is pretty brutal for all analysts tbh). You’ll be able to exit just fine

 

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