How would you guys react to such a request? I always knew Muslims have these Friday prayers but never knew anyone who actually observed it..
im not sure how to react to this. Go to HR? Say no? Guaranteeing Friday afternoons off seems too much to me.
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Doesn’t seem like a big deal to me…1.5 hours is not a ton, especially on Friday afternoons which tend to be slow. I’ve worked with orthodox Jewish analysts are offline the entire sabbath, Christian analysts who go to bible study every Wednesday night, etc. Deal teams find a way to make it work.
You're not guaranteeing a Friday afternoon off...you are just letting him/her have 1.5 hours...I'm so glad I'm leaving this industry with attitudes like this. Newsflash: your analysts are probably wasting more than 1.5 hours anyways on Friday afternoons.
Bruh just let dude pray c'mon it's Friday afternoon not Monday morning lmao
Who tf cares 1.5 hours is nothing
How do they rationalize working for a bank as an observant Muslim?
This is a legitimate question guys, not sure why it’s getting monkey shit. There’s a such thing as Islamic Finance and Sukuk for a reason
You realize the ecumenical councils and later church councils literally made usury a heresy, right? The catholic church technically still condemns it (while still investing in interest-bearing assets at the same time). In the medieval period, all St. Anselm, St. Bernardino, and St. Thomas Aquinas are notable for arguing that the charging of interest is wrong.
Exodus 22: 25-27 -- “If you lend money to one of my people among you who is needy, do not treat it like a business deal; charge no interest. 26 If you take your neighbor’s cloak as a pledge, return it by sunset, 27 because that cloak is the only covering your neighbor has. What else can they sleep in? When they cry out to me, I will hear, for I am compassionate."
This question is so hypocritical because because we can go to any religion and find some bullshit in 1000 year old theory and texts to justify more bullshit today. However, that really doesn't matter. It is our personal freedom to practice or not-practice parts of our faith in any method we choose. Surely, as an American, we can respect this freedom instead of trying to gatekeep who can consider themselves whatever religion? For the record, I think Islam is full of bullshit but that isn't relevant here. I'm still going to respect you regardless and let you practice your religion how you choose. This is not to even mention, the tolerance for Orthodox Jewish analysts to take the sabbath off and Christian analysts taking hours off a couple times a week for bible study. That's pure hypocrisy.
And all of THIS, is to not even mention that this whole discussion is for 1.5 hours off on a FRIDAY AFTERNOON around LUNCHTIME. Jesus Christ bro. He's already giving you his soul and 90 hours a week. People who argue against this shit are the problem in this industry. OP please go to HR so you can get demolished by SJW's for this.
- A non-practicing Christian
This is such a non issue. 1.5 hours is not Friday afternoon off at all, and the prayers are at 12pm - it's the equivalent of a long lunch.
as an aside, if you go to HR you'll be the one getting a smackdown not him
When I say. Go to HR I meant should I leave the decision to them and wash my hands off them.
I don’t mean go to HR and complain. Jeez. Some people need to get a reality chrck
Hey bro, muslim analyst here. I assume you are genuinely concerned so ignore the monkey shit. I mean its only 1.5 hours, I usually take 1hr but that's because the mosque isn't too far from the office. And incase there is some live deal blowing up I'm pretty sure your analyst would do a shorter prayer in a conference room in the office (not ideal or preferred) but could be done once in a while. I've never had an issue with this before with my vp or associate. HR wont have an issue either. Cheers!
I led a large scale, global investment initiative for a bank before and made sure key meetings for colleagues in Arabic countries were not on a Friday. Wasn't such a big deal tbh.
Also, those colleagues were more than happy to put in hours on weekends.
Absolutely don’t go to hr. The last thing hr wants is someone having a good discrimination case. It’s a Friday afternoon, just block it off on the calendar and know he’s busy.
As an aside which I'm really curious about - do observant Christians get to have some time to worship on Sundays?
No company I ever worked for expects anyone to work on a Sunday morning. Worked for EU and US banks.
Sunday evenings are a different story though..
Don’t bankers work all Sunday by default? Meetings/deliverables from seniors from 9/10am?
Plenty of banks work all day Sunday, but saying you're going to a 9 or 10am service is generally no problem as long as you communicate it
As long as they are able to produce quality work on time who gives a shit. People like you are what's wrong with this industry.
I hope this blows up. Pun intended.
Jewish guys at my old firm didnt work on shabbat and it was pretty okay. I don’t see how that is a problem. The analyst would just work earlier/later shouldn’t disrupt workflow at all.
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