No pedigree boutique - In the old fashion. How crazy?
So I’ve been sitting on this idea for a while and wanted to throw it out here to see what people think. What if someone started a boutique investment bank that recruits predominantly non-targets i.e., not the cookie butter Ivies or MF pipeline tourists. Just hungry, under-the-radar killers who actually want to stay in the game, not just model their way to PE after 2 years. I’m talking Drexel 2.0 vibes. Early Milken energy. A firm that isn’t built around pedigree or prestige, but pure hustle and results.
The culture would be raw, intense, performance-based. No BS corporate programs. You’re in the room on live deals Day 1. You either execute or get out. Promotions based on contribution, not calendar years. Pay people fat if they perform. Give carry or bonuses. Create internal capital to back your own team’s ideas. Make it so good that staying is better than “exiting.”
Would something like this even survive in today’s market? What it would take to gain market share and compete on the same level as Moelis or Jefferies for deals? Is it even feasible, or does the system just protect the incumbents too well? Curious what people think.
This idea is bold, and while it channels the raw energy of early Drexel or Milken vibes, it’s not without its challenges. Based on the most helpful WSO content, here’s a breakdown of the feasibility and hurdles:
Feasibility of a Non-Pedigree Boutique
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What It Would Take to Succeed
Final Thoughts
While the idea is ambitious, it’s not impossible. The key is to find a niche, execute flawlessly, and build a culture that attracts and retains the right talent. However, the challenges are significant, and the system does favor established players. If you’re serious about this, starting small, focusing on a specific niche, and gradually scaling up might be the most viable path forward.
Sign me up. At the very least, it has notable differentiation from the rest of the industry, which can create positive PR and early success.
Why would the rainmaker MDs who’d need to start a firm like this do so? They don’t care about developing analysts to be killers and wait for some theoretical payoff 15 years down the line.
Why would you do that when:
A) the IB business model is built on having a ton of analysts who leave, otherwise there wouldn't be space for promotion
B) hardos who are gunning for PE are still very good analysts
Also you're basically just describing a more extreme CVP or the dyal & co/klein type banks
The only way to mitigate what you said is through paying ridiculous comp via bonus. See Dyal, anecdotally haven't heard of that many exits from Dyal. Personally, if I was getting Dyal-level comp, there is no way I would leave to PE unless there is a clear path to carry, the only other exit I envisage is to a corporate to intentionally reduce my hours
Execution analysts are like zebras. They roam, they eat, they poop - they do what they are asked. Grass grows - there is no eat what you kill for a zebra. Cause you really just graze what grows w random rain. There are very few lion (or lionesses) hunting and even then few do it well. Zebras won’t become lions and we don’t really need many lions leave their pride and go solo to keep some zebras happy.
This guy Zoos
The firm exists - it's called Ducera. Kramer likes to recruit nontargets because he was a nontarget and believes in the idea that nontargets are "hungrier" and often have a stronger work ethic.
This is in essence what Ducera is. Many Ohio State & Arizona State kids there. Founder came from non target so is open to them provided they are hungry and can work.
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