Non-targets at GS TMT
Taking a look at the colleges that the analysts in GS attended, I’m surprised by how few top target schools are represented in TMT NYC at GS.
Any thoughts?
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Certain schools tend to have more representation in other groups due to alums/higher ups. Yale has a big presence in ECM, Yale/Princeton/Duke in FIG, etc.
Given your offer is group specific, I’d assume people are strategic about rankings.
Yeah I know - I’m at GS. I just thought it’s surprising bc the groups themselves also rank preferences so you’d think they’d also index on target schools. In comparison, NR (for ex.) is almost all Ivy League + Stanford grads
Yeh NR seems to have a huge Harvard presence because of a supportive alum
>Any thoughts?
No, I don’t care
God forbid a non-target can do the job better than a top 25 school student!
POV: target school kid finds out his school name won’t just give him an offer at GS TMT.
Why do you care?
Tough scene
GS had some Ohio state kids in nyc coverage. Most got fired for performance / low IQ
Literally none of the OSU kids in that group got fired lol
do you know guys that all their life got bullied for being fat and then they insult others for being fat?
I think the same thing applies to his comment but to performance / low IQ.
Funny that you never hear genuinely intelligent people ever mention IQ, while the most severely autistic people obsess over it…
From a reputable sources: you are a dumbass
Calm down Private Equity Associate, you're still an excel monkey like they're. Your IQ is not that high.
I’m willing to take an IQ / Wonderlic with you and throw $100 on the result.
I think you should switch to consulting.
Not 100% sure but pretty sure their process is very networking/diversity/crapshoot heavy. I'm at a H/S/W, interned at MS/EVR/PJT for SA, and am incoming MF PE analyst and I couldn't even get an interview with them for SA or FT (straight to rejection, no hirevue). Crazy.
womp womp
HSW undergrad and MS/EVR/PJT are the most eclectic groupings lol, 3 totally different banks and not a school grouping anyone uses for undergrad. My money is on Wharton and PJT M&A
My money is on Stanford and Evercore. People almost always seem to put the real one in the middle of the groupings.
You seem like a bundle of fun.
Between Hirevues and Zoom interviews, BB hiring is very diversified by school now. A group like TMT that is highly regarded and doesn't really care about pedigree can pick from their top networkers / group of resumes
FWIW my group (not GS TMT level but still a top BB group) tends to have a preference towards scrappy non-target kids as they had a string of lazier HYP types come through a few years ago. Not representative of the rest of their schools of course, but even MDs are aware of the high effort required to land IB at a non-target and are willing to give those guys a chance
What does FWIW mean? Thanks
(I) Fucks With International Women
= for what it's worth
Another factor to consider is do some of these kids have engineering backgrounds, tech experience from place like Michigan, Illinois, Cal, etc.
Kids from engineering backgrounds are smart too, it’s way more technical than ib modeling
Plus they usually get TMT and the why behind a lot of it.
Friends interned there this past summer. More than half of the intern class was from Wharton.
Top target school kids go to buyside directly. Going to sellside is considered a failure
IB is not as prestigious as it was 10-15 years ago. Salaries have not grown as fast as they have in tech and even law, but the work is just as hard. With gen Z more focused on a balanced life, top students don’t want to sweat their dick off just to say they work for an investment bank lol
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