Superday at TPH or Simmons Co
I was wondering if I can get a background story on some candidates who were offered a super day at one of these upper boutique firms. I am interested in both of these firms because of their focus in the energy sector. However I would say I have an unusual background so I just want to compare with some of the candidates out there. I currently work for a junior E&P company but I have helped created financial models to help raise debt&equity. Assist with the "road show" presentations. Also when we were going through a deal structure, I assisted with the Information memorandums as well.
However, are most of the new candidates that are getting their foot in for the super days pre-MBA students? I know TPH recruits at Rice & McCombs. But I also researched that a candidate cold-emailed TPH and got an interview.
I can speak from a UK standpoint. I have spoken with both firms (not interviewed). My general consensus is that they are both laid back places with nice people. My gut feeling was that TPH seemed slightly more interested in applicants with a strong academic/brand background, whereas Simmons seemed happy to give anyone a chance. Again, this is from a UK standpoint.
I know this doesn't help you too much but thought I'd chime in.
From a FT and SA perspective for junior and senior undergraduate opportunities, Simmons is more laid back and really really really cares about fit. They also put you into a single vertical within energy from your analyst years. TPH works you hard but they are great people, also really care about fit. Be happy to work at either.
Both take juniors for SA, seniors for FT, and sometimes look at MBAs / lateral hires for associates. A good portion of the people I have spoken to who were originally, like yourself, working in E&P companies did an MBA before switching. Reach out to people at both firms. Both firms are super open to speaking with you about their firms.
If you are at an E&P company, I feel like TPH could be a good fit. Much stronger than Simmons in E&P (again, I am someone who has only interviewed with most people there in Houston / has friends in different firms. I have not started working yet). But, you might like the Simmons E&P guys as well - smaller deals though, but that could have benefits.
I got interviews at both through cold emails. Non-target. superday at both. Offer from one... and there was a good reason for me not getting the offer from the other (as it was my first superday and I screwed up a few fit questions... don't do that... be prepared... you might only get one shot) so they both are open to people reaching out and working hard.
Forrest, thanks for the feedback. I am relieved by your comments. Is it okay if I PM you to discuss more about your background and the process you went through?
Feel free to do so. Busy time of year but I should be able to get back to you. Best of Luck!
i have had or do have friends at both. For lifestyle, Simmons is the better choice. For deal flow, I'd go TPH - better breadth. Simmons is really strong at OFS but very marginal at the other two verticals.
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