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Not sure if this is on this discussion board alone. I have seen more physical violence in public, more road rage incidents and generally more hostile people than ever before. Not just on WSO.

People are freaking out with what's going on currently. CoL increases, lack of opportunities, lack of money, etc.

WSO specifically has changed considerably over the years. It went from a professional forum where the lifestyle of high finance was written about to an online board /w predominantly international and domestic prospective students. Thanks to meme stocks, cryptocurrencies and overall ultra-high price tags even for the most mundane purchases (and social media, of course), money is on display every single day. It is only natural that people want more of it.

There is also the permanent view that money equals success in all areas of life. Nothing could be further from the truth. The wealthy men I have met through the years were almost always the least successful with women due to their looks, lack of time, their stress levels, or because they were very uncomfortable to be around. If people truly think that (all) women are only into wealth, they are not understanding how things work...

Money can never buy class, looks, charm, and natural confidence.

 

always been this way starting with the whole personality based on school and bank kind of thing. When people go to a good school or firm, they always think they are better then everyone between the ages of 18-24 until they realize they really aren't that great after all. That is reflected on this forum which is 1. full of kids between 18-24 and 2. people can say what they want anonymously without getting repercussions like being punched in the face. Honestly nothing that can be done about it, that is what that combination results in. You especially see it with kids that only base their value on this whole "prestige" thing because they don't have many friends or girl interactions because they sacrificed a ton of time to get into a good school or firm, so to prove themselves to others they feel the need to always share this information whenever they can (and no way better to do it than online and anonymously!)

 

>someone else holds opinions that aren't your opinions

>>they don't have sex

what?

 

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Maybe we're just more based than the shitty previous generations who got us in this hellhole

Being “based” isn’t it imo. I’ve had a friend reach out to me several times complaining about not getting matches on tinder and complaining about how his ex broke up w him. I’ve said the same shit each time of how he should go get jacked. He makes good money, lives by himself, and has his own car. From the outside he’s “winning”, but he’s always bitching about women. He’s tall but not white which doesn’t help with online dating.

People are more hostile in general nowadays. I think this is in large part to social media - people spend all their time online and forget how to interact in the real world. I actually got back on instagram a couple weeks ago to reconnect with some people and have found myself spending way too much time scrolling on it. Nothing nefarious, just watching fruit being cut up and cars, but the time suck is huge.

I have another friend who I disagree with on a lot of political stuff, but we get along great. We understand that we don’t have to see eye-to-eye on even major political beliefs like Roe v Wade or UBI.

 

Responding to you and OP but it's really just a function of losers migrating from cesspools like 4chan and bringing that lame, edgy vernacular from the fringes to the mainstream, if you will. For eg, we've already got some loser in this thread greentexting (use of ">" before a phrase/sentence) and some other loser on the website with the username sneed and feed (obv may be a Simpson's reference but also largely a 4chan meme at this point), and there are more examples I've seen before. Also see the attached picture which basically confirms your observations - more than a quarter of the male population under age 30 are virgins in an age of increasing secularism. Think about all the edgy, hypercareerist, socially inept, terminally online kids on here - chances are a lot of them make up the 27%. They are really just part of a wider societal problem. 

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As a regular on this site who takes the time to try and contribute whenever possible, I think something needs to be done. WSO is still an amazing resource and discussion platform, but the amount of blatant racism / sexism / anti-Semitism is getting out of hand. IP banning these naive little 18 year olds who feel safe behind their monitors would be a good first step.

To be explicitly clear, I am not talking about controversial takes (e.g., diversity recruiting, school shootings), essentially anything like that MIGHT not be seen as PC. I can understand different perspectives and believe everyone is entitled to their own opinions. What I am talking about is the fact that there is a user with the name @chadthejewhater on this website. That kind of shit isn't funny unless you're an actual anti-Semite who has a below room temp IQ and has failed at most aspects of your life. Other users who drop the N word and say blatantly racist shit should be permanently removed. 

If you are too immature to hold back on typing objectively racist / sexist / religious discriminatory comments, there is no place for you. This isnt Reddit, this isnt an Xbox Live Lobby, this is a website designed to HELP people. I started using WSO as a naïve little sophmore trying to break into finance because no one in my personal life knew the first thing about the industry. I did not have any connections in finance as an industry or an impressive university diploma to fall back on. Yet, I am here largely in part of WSO, and I choose to spend a good chunk of my limited free time trying to give back.  

The rise in absolutely horrendous comments has skyrocketed, growing at what I would assume is close to 1000x within the past half decade or so. I know WSO is doing their best at cleaning up their site, but what we also need is to stop letting people recreate new accounts. There are probably 10-20 people responsible for 95% of the truly messed up posts and comments. 

 

OP here, 100% agree and couldn’t have said it better. I’m not talking about an opinion on diversity recruiting or something like that.

I’ve seen some absolutely horrendous comments/accounts and there is no moderation. I’m talking about outright hateful/sexist/racist things that have no place, much less on a site that is supposed to be used for sharing experiences in finance.

 

Not half decade more like past 2 years. It has gotten really bad since Covid. One theory I had before was that there wasn’t many unique takes/stories that could be shared when everyone was working remotely from their parents basement and things were shut down, but unfortunately even now the site has not come back and it makes me think that a) the composition of the banking analyst class has changed dramatically (people who have no problem grinding 20hrs/day from a cramped studio who are more likely to have incel type tendencies) or b) a lot of people have been permanently driven away due to the outright racism and it will take some time for trust to be gained again before the community bounces back

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I'm a little late here, but I think both of the above points are absolutely true. 

Starting on the later point, when I've told people that I actually participate regularly on this site, I've only gotten sneers. People think I'm genuinely insane or suffering mentally when they hear I regularly post here. It's sad. :(

But that's the reputation the site has gotten. It helped me years ago on a different account when I was recruiting for banking. It was not like that back then, before COVID-19. Lots of people avoid this site thinking it has simply fallen into a mess. Part of me wants to think that they just don't know what's here, but part of me knows how different it is compared to how it was even then. 

Additionally, I will admit that more people who can sit in their parent's basements for 20hrs/day doing work have been entering finance and IB. That kind of person, who may not even have been that way pre-pandemic, has very much found themselves the ability to get a job while simultaneously hiding their personality completely behind a Zoom video and computer screen. With no opportunity to meet people face to face at a dinner or at a networking session, bankers do not really know who they are getting. Fit stops mattering because they don't even know for sure if the people they are working for are truly a fit. They only know if they are a fit in answering email, participating on Zoom calls, and, frankly (largely the next point and the next point alone), being able to do unreasonably large amounts of work. 

Is it the site's fault? I don't know. But the last few years really was the result of a challenge thrown at the administrators, not just poor management. 

 

I've officially completed year one of banking. And I will say this industry is filled with SO many insecure incels (analyst all the way to MD), it's actually disgusting. So many dudes come into this industry and think that this job title / the money that comes from it will "get them laid" / make them "more desirable" in the eyes of the opposite sex bc they're "size movers," but it can't be farther from the truth. It's kind of a conglomeration of the kids that weren't cool in HS that think having this job will magically redeem them in the eyes of society. Cuz guess what: aside from the kids in your undergrad finance club, NO ONE ACTUALLY GIVES A FUCK. It's literally just a job. And I just got railed on taxes w my bonus, so I didn't even make that much money! In fact, I kinda regret doing this cuz so many ppl my age are out having fun, traveling to exotic places, and still making a solid living while I'm stuck in a cubicle at 3am coming to terms that I have another full year of this shit to complete. In a nutshell I think a lot of ppl in this industry need to rethink their priorities, or this industry just needs to change as a whole. Cuz it just ain't it anymore, at least in my opinion

 

Yeah society is crumbling. We're like the guys a few decades before the Roman Empire Collapsed.

It's just totally degenerate, rewards morons and thus you see more incels, violence in an oversexualized society.

Russia and Iran were right.

 

>Be me

>Wake up at 6:00AM sharp, no alarm

>It's a beautiful day to own the libs

>Nobody ever owned the libs on an empty stomach

>Huge mug of covfefe and down a steak 

>Throw my plastic utensils in the trash instead of the recycling bin, to own the sea turtles

>Fucking sea turtles are turning my country into a radical left anarchist hellscape

>Get to office

>Not staffed on anything because my power levels are too high 

>Log into WSO and say the N word from a burner account

>Checkmate liberals, I've got you on a leash

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