Vault Rankings of all IBD, PE firms by prestige
http://www.vault.com/wps/portal/usa/rankings/indi…
If there was a ranking of dumbest lists I've ever seen, this would make #1
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Sometimes I feel like those Vault rankings are truly meaningless. I think people would kill to get into any of the 25 firms (side note: how the hell is JPM above MS????)
Plus, what exactly is "prestige"? For prospective monkeys, ALL of the firms mentioned are well-known (and if they don't, they need to do more homework on the industry). For non-finance folks out there, some may hear about those firms before, some may not. But really, who gives a shit??? (and if they have absolutely no clue about those firms, it's very likely that they are not in your circle of friends anyway). As long as you're bringing in the $$$, I don't see how those rankings are beneficial in anyway (maybe stroking some egos, but that's about it)
Isn't JPM doing better than MS overall in recent years?
JPM is "doing better" a.k.a. hires about 3x as many analysts as GS / MS
Hahaha JPM hater.
"I said STOP... hatin's bad."
Not hating, JPM has made a great push in the past few years but considering their industry teams are twice as big as their counterparts at MS and still trailing MS in global M&A...
hahaha who the hell actually ranks stuff by prestige on a legit (?) website?
Who is more prestigious?
a. An IBD analyst at Goldman Sachs b. A Pre-MBA Associate at Blackstone c. A Post-MBA Associate at KKR d. A PM at SAC e. George Soros f. Ray Dalio (has the power to make this happen: http://www.bwater.com/home/culture--principles/culture-videos/culture-v…)
None of the above:
warren buffett... even people who don't know the difference between high finance and the edward jones financial planner in the strip mall down the street know of him.
^^For prestige in finance, I'd have to go with whoever has the most money
Perhaps because MS has been in a terrible state for quite some time now.
Either way, it's a dumb ranking.
Why isn't Jump trading on there?
Truely, these lists blow my mind in terms of stupidity. KKR and BX all go after the same investments, and MS/JPM/GS all go after the same shit as well. You work in or around those shops for a while and will see they all kind of blend together. Sometimes JP will get a deal over MS because they did a line of credit for the firm last year that MS/GS wouldn't. Maybe they all gave this firm a line of credit and it was just JP's "turn". That's how it goes down.
I await some WSO prospective monkey to correlate this list to the on-campus recruiting hires at undergrad and MBA for each firm. Then to come out with a "vault prestige target list ranking" system.
I know someone is already doing the math come on.
Sadly, marcellus is probably right, though I'm not limiting it to WSO prospective monkeys
Is it true that JPM's expense policy is generous?
Rank "House" Value (USD M) Number of Deals 1 Goldman Sachs 467687 230 2 JPMorgan 405871 161 3 Morgan Stanley 382670 184 4 Credit Suisse 336964 156 5 Citigroup Inc 277286 119 6 Deutsche Bank AG 265588 132 7 Bank of America Merrill Lynch 255185 169 8 Barclays Capital 207812 96 9 Lazard 191924 131 10 UBS Investment Bank 166257 151
If you dis-aggregate that list into ibanks, hedge funds, and PE firms, the ranking is actually a decent indicator of the most desirable firms to work for, barring the MS snub
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