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Giving up isn’t an option. Just keep going man. You only need one offer
Well you just said it. Non target. Maybe try transferring to a target school if you have the grades? Keep in mind you are not only competing with non targets but targets as well
Calm down and stop crying. It’s March, you still have time and it’s not the end of the world. Speaking as someone who recruited for Summer 2024 SA and didn’t get an offer until November. There are still plenty of great front office intern roles that you should be applying to and networking for, and there will be more intern roles opening up into the spring, summer, and fall. There will even be a handful of intern roles randomly opening into the new year as well, I know of a bunch of people in my grade still trying to make something happen for this summer.
You shouldn’t take me assuring you that you have time as a reason to be complacent though. If you haven’t already been casting a relatively wide net across different offices, firms, industries, etc, then you need to start doing that, especially as we progress into spring/summer and more and more intern spots are taken. Take some time to self-evaluate your recruiting efforts as well. When are you being rejected? If it’s at the application or resume screening stage then you aren’t networking enough. If it’s at the interview stage, whether it’s a first round phone screen with HR or a superday with an MD, then dive deep into what you think you did well and more importantly, where you think you can improve and go from there. Do behavioral and technical mocks with friends, upperclassmen, mentors, anyone you know that could help.
It’s not over until you give up and say it’s over. Right now there are sophomores in your shoes still without offers, there are juniors still trying to find an offer for Summer 2024, and there are seniors graduating in 2-3 months still recruiting for FT. The job market’s tough for everyone right now, don’t give up.
There's also people who graduated in May'23 and still haven't landed anything
Dont give up, kid. I didn't get any offers until the last day of finals (prob 5 weeks before internship started), and on that day i got two separate offers. I would've never gotten there if I had given up. Keep your head up high, it's a grind.
Personally, I love collecting rejection emails. They’re like trophies.
I have now 500+ rejections emails, 3 internships, 3 full time positions, 5YOE
Hey man, nothing to add, but keep at it. All it takes is one interview! Keep grinding man and keep your head up. You got this.
try something other than IB, like Big4. you're a non-target. why are you expecting a JPM/UBS IB offer? for every spot at JPM/UBS there are hundreds of target applicants. start with Big4 and work your way up.
Found this out recently, but big 4 also have their own IB arms. Deloitte for example has a "corporate finance" division which is literally just MM investment banking. Maybe start at big 4, but not necessarily in tax/audit or something, just go IB for these firms? Can't imagine their interview process is crazy difficult
People grow from failure, not success. If life was handed to you, you'd be unbearable. Bc it's harder for you to get an IB job, once you land the gig and are at the desk, you'll be a much better analyst bc of how hard it was for you to get there. The only internship I could get was at a small nonage boutique bank in the south that is on absolutely no one's radar... I was able to then get FT role at a top bank senior fall. Every think will work out.
Any advice for FT recruiting?
Hustle is the name of the game. I'm in a similar spot, haven't landed anything. Had a similar experience as to yours where I got rejected from a bank that I spent an ungodly amount of time researching and preparing for. Also had a very long drive back to school where I sat in the car with no music, no words spoken, just me beating myself up in my own head.
Difference between me and you though, is that I recognize it's only over when I say it's over. You may feel down right now, believe me I certainly did. But I promise you, if you keep hustling and keep your eyes on the prize, sooner or later that offer is going to come to you. Doesn't matter if it's not as good of an offer as you'd originally wanted - it'll only make your climb to the top that much sweeter.
Now get to work. You and I have some grinding to do
I feel super similarly, non-target, sophomore, cant seem to really land one. PM me!!! would love to talk it out with someone who gets it
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