I’m Conservative, but might vote for Carney.

Best part was Pierre Poiliever saying he was more equipped to handle Trump, tariffs, and global economy and opposed to the man ran both the BoC and BoE

Man is class, what a heavy hitter. If he wins, hopefully refreshes out the cabinet. Def keeping an eye on the natural resources portfolios.

I know this is probably a troll but this pretty accurately reflects the sentiment here, and is a case study for why Canada deserves every single thing that's happening to it.

I went to Canada last in 2015 - went there recently and it felt like a completely different country (india).  Like legitimately couldn't believe how the country changed in 10 years.

I think bar the ultra-green initiative (there's a fine line between pragmatic realism and doing, 'hey lets shut down massive industries because of net-zero by 2050 and fuck up entire communities dependent on gas') he'd be a centre-right liberal-tory in the UK. The key for centrists in this day to beat populism is 1) deliver on economy and 2) deliver on immigration (ie cut it to sensible levels & prioritise high-skilled) and 3) don't dive too further left on culture war issues (to be socially liberal is fine and one thing, going down the route of some US democrats isnt). I am impressed so far with him however

Would someone explain the difference to me between the two parties at present? After hearing Carney discuss the Ring of Fire, removing barriers to infrastructure, removing the carbon tax, not increasing capital gains, HST exception for home buyers, slowing immigration, they have similar platforms. I don’t care that Pierre said them first.

The big difference is the candidate. I have hated the liberal party for years, but if Carney proves he can clean house, utilize natural resources domestically, and not increase immigration I am willing to hear him out given his track record as an individual.

Conversely, Pierre needs to differentiate. If he actually addresses issues like immigration properly he will win. His campaign of painting Carney as the owner of Brookfield makes zero sense. Even on him being a ‘green fanatic’ he was talking his book as a PM - I can’t fault that.

I genuinely welcome discourse on why I am wrong and these parties are extremely different.

Wont matter when it becomes the 51st state

Even if Carney was a prophet, the skies opened up and he got God's endorsement I would not vote for him because he's still surrounded by the same people as Trudeau. Sure he has an impressive resume but the party and its values are fundamentally the same. 

They are making some big promises but they always do. Remember how hard Trudeau was pushing to eliminate first past the post? Never heard about it again after 2015.  I cannot believe for a second that a man who has been pushing for degrowth via carbon taxes to the point he wrote a book about it abandoned those ideas.  East-West pipeline? He appointed Guilbeault, one of the most radical environmentalists in Canada as Quebec lieutenant, a province which is already deeply opposed to such projects, there will be no pipeline. 

The election should be a referendum on the last 9 years of disastrous policy and scandal versus Polievre's platform (which is clearly quite good because Carney is copying it). Again he is a very accomplished man, but that does not necessarily make him fit for the job and we still need to contend with the people around him that will be enabled. 

This post is emblematic of why Canada is absolutely screwed. 10 years of the worst administration in Canadian history and the Canadian electorate is clamouring for more.

I hope you continue to enjoy the non-stop, unfettered mass immigration alongside trying to buy a decent house, which costs C$2-3MM, with a marginal tax rate of 53.5% that kicks in at 225k.

Canadians (myself included) GTFO to greener pastures while you still can.

“Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.”
- H.L. Mencken

Right wing politicians in Canada in Europe don’t have any strategies or ideas or competent people. Take a good look at right wing parties there - it’s nothing except copying trump’s populism and being anti woke while offering absolutely nothing different. Nothing at all. 

Conservatives don’t have a chance. It’s not just that Pierre sounds like a moron by not really providing much to his campaign, but he kinda shot himself in the foot with his media appearances on American right wing networks like the daily wire. These interviews focused so incessantly on making him appear like the Canadian trump and he should’ve known that brand of populism isn’t popular outside the US. No one wants to be liberated from the pronoun oppression outside of Montana maybe. Just focus on providing an alternative to make people’s lives less expensive. It’s not hard. He’s left completely embarrassed and isolated as the same hard right groups he sucked off are laughing at making Canada the 51st state. Right wing populism has peaked in Canada after this. If you look at any polling data you’ll see liberals numbers rising after this stunt from trump. 
 

This should’ve been the easiest elections for conservatives in a long time. They’re facing off a very strong guy, sure, but they just wasted their chance by their choices. Could’ve kept all the attention on countering Trudeau’s miserable economic policies, explaining in detail how they’ll realistically make things better, but instead they chose owning the libs as a strategy. They deserve to lose.