Lying about GPA
I have nothing to lose. My current GPA is so trash (2.7) so my only hope is lying about it. How socially acceptable would it be to lie about my GPA, then follow up by sending AI generated transcripts? It's not like I was going to get accepted to your firm the normal way why not just try to finesse the system
Best Regards,
Target School Timmy
Some firms require the college to send the transcript directly, which could potentially put you in quite the pickle. Total ban from not just Wall Street but any financial services company in the United States and maybe even law firms. Biggest things to watch out for:
1. Your GPA is so low you might just want to accept that you’re retarded and filter yourself out at this point, focus on a boutique accounting job or something.
2. See 1.
3. If it works, remind yourself that this shit doesn’t fly on the job, you will go to jail if you try it again.
OP here, I was mainly just curious if banks directly contacted schools for transcripts because I was just thinking about rounding up a 3.65 to a 3.7. I'm not retarded enough to have a 2.7 lol apologies for the clickbait guys
They have to ask you first and cannot direct request transcripts. So it's limited downside when you can bow out at that point in the process with as much or as little explanation.
Funny seeing all the boy scouts on here whose panties are in a bunch because someone might get to the same place they did without making this bullshit their life.
Do not lie, it’s such an easy thing to get black balled in this industry and I’d rather hear you overcame it than it become your demise
Do not lie. Just don’t put it on your resume and get networking. You most likely won’t pass on paper but if you’re savvy enough over the phone, you might just get a shot somewhere and once you’re in the industry, you’re in. Also, if it’s a large institution, they have background checking companies confirm it with your university. You might be able to pull it off with a small local/regional boutique but I wouldn’t recommend.
Hope you know most banks have some sort of background check process, my bank in particular used HireRight - they contacted my university for confirmation of my GPA and major.
Yeah some banks don’t ask for transcript, some don’t even verify. But a lot of these background checks will handle the verifications if I’m not mistaken. I’ve seen people do it before, and I’ve seen people lie about graduate year as well. All I’ll say is take this with a grain of salt.
Agreed, I've worked at 3 banks at the internship/campus graduate level, and there is huge variance in how closely this is verified. One didn't ask for transcript at all, one asked for an unofficial one, and then one wanted my official. There was overlap in which BG check company was used too so it seems to be bank policy.
go for it lol. Worst case scenario Wendy's needs somebody behind the register.
If rising sophomore at target school, you should be able to transfer to school within t30 despite shit GPA. That gives you a GPA reset. You will then delay grad date to December of 2029 and recruit next year. Worst case scenario you don’t get into a better school and can get your gpa up to at least a 3.3 by end of 2027.
If you want to spring transfer as to have a school specific gpa when recruiting in 2027, there are some targets/semi-targets which have a spring transfer program.
Highly unlikely you can transfer to a top school w a GPA that’s this bad
One thing you can do is put your Major GPA if it's higher alongside your regular one. If you major in something relevant and it's >3.3 you can chalk it up the lower score to a super hard engineering class that you bombed.
I’d say run it and whatever happens happens bro
There is absolutely no way you are breaking into the industry with that gpa, so you might as well throw a Hail Mary and lie. If you get caught, it’s not like you lose anything since your true gpa would have disqualified you from ever working in the industry anyways.
Find any way to get a realistic GPA on your resume. Pick the most honest label and place it somewhere discreet, not necessarily the same phrasing I used here but there are many ways to handle without lying; (i) Major GPA, (ii) Major and Minor GPAs, (iii) Courses in progress GPA, (iv) Relevant courses in progress GPA and Expected CGPA, (v) Finance GPA and Expected CGPA, (vi) No official GPA yet etc...
People in here are going to be upset by it, but lying about your resume is really a significantly positive asymmetric risk here. The downside is you don't ever get into finance, which you're going to have a hard time doing anyway barring some decade long convoluted path. The upside is you break into an industry you otherwise had no business being in, and by the time you're on your second or third job the background checks run by these firms almost never check for GPA (just a yes or no on graduation with the named majors)
This is the real answer. Knew people in college that had sub 3.5 and then bumped the resume to 3.5+ so doors would open. It worked and they haven't looked back. Worst case the firm asks for transcript request authorization - yes they need your permission - and you decline. It's a numbers game and as others noted on this thread, some places never dig that deep.
Same thing applies for things like grad school too. Had a friend who lied about his work experience to Stanford, Harvard, etc on his application. One of the two schools never even bothered to reach out to verify his work experience, I forgot which one but there’s definitely gaps that exist.
Not worth it, that’s how you get blacklisted brother
no such thing
you can network your way out of anything. try to find the md who also had a low GPA and will respect the hustle and fight for you
I watched a documentary about a guy who works in Big Law and did not even have a degree, and he lied about having graduated from Harvard because the firm that recruited him only hired graduates of this school. He also used to be a stoner, but his memory was surprisingly good. Still works in one of the top firms; nobody ever figured out his lies. So I say go for it! Nothing bad can come out of it!
The fact that you would ask/consider doing this shows such poor character. I've seen lots of things happen in my long career (62). Generally speaking, people rise or are limited by the level of their competence /character. Cheaters can win the short game, but very different in the long game.
I feel sorry for you and the people who consider you a friend.
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