Networking - you guys can’t possibly be this busy

What’s the deal with students reaching out asking for a networking call, but coming back with only a couple thirty minute slots of time? Or rescheduling but not for later in the same day but a full week or two later? Don’t know if it’s just the guys who hit me up recently but it’s annoying. I work all week and had way more free time in college than I do now. Don’t tell me your calendar is full except for 1pm on Tuesday dude, you asked me for the call…

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its just the way they roll these days my man. lack of urgency and just more loosy goosy since they came up during an economically prosperous time. i've just stopped responding to those types of students because it is an easy filter for me to figure how to allocate my time to those who are more focused on recruiting. and to be frank, im sure this type of behavior will carry over to the actual job if they were put in so no thanks.

 

Unfortunate since it puts a bad rap on kids like me who give full availability always and take chats mid family events if needed

 

Had a kid while recruiting who just slept in for a networking call already scheduled. Seemed pretty interesting from my perspective. 

 

Similar on my end, dude straight up missed the meeting time and tried to email me later with an apology and ask to reschedule.

Like come on man, this was over holiday period too.

I literally get only a few hours Friday night and part of Saturday not working, if you can't respect the time you schedule I'm not going to waste another 30 minutes.

 

Not an excuse and not sure it's a pattern you're seeing, but I genuinely think it might have something to do with COVID culture.

I graduated college during COVID and was still at the top of my class, but I swear 2020 altered my brain. I used to be type A with deadlines and overall just being on top of shit. But toward the end I was turning assignments in late and just felt like I was lagging no matter how hard I tried. I've gotten better with a lot of work but it flowed over into my job once I graduated too. I'm still not back to where I was pre-COVID where I could finish things rapidly and far ahead of deadlines, but I'm trying.

Again, not an excuse, but will be curious to see studies in the coming years. I can't even pinpoint what changed me but something did.

 

Advice to the kids: don't be like that. One of the toughest jobs of the banker who agrees to the networking call, is that he's ultimately going to have to decide who to push forward in the process.  It's tough because usually all of the kids are strong - good grades, good answers, mature etc.  He dreads the time he'll have to put in to make & justify those decisions.  Any signal that you don't want it as badly as the others will make his job easy.

 

This is so true. I ran a search fund and before we acquired, we had a number of interns over summers and in semester. I can't tell you how many people would reach out, ask to talk, I would agree, and only offer 1 30 min slots over a week. I get it, it's a search fund internship and it's a very low bar, but it always made me laugh. If you're going to ask me to talk, and its not an advertised role/networking call, give me a few options. Dude I was a college sophomore once too, I played a D1 varsity sport and had plenty of time to jump on a call. 

Met plenty of very squared away undergrads, but I would always laugh when young gordon gecko shared his availability (non-existent)

 

I am not in IB but I have had so many students and people early in their career reach out via LinkedIn, this forum, etc...

...but substantially flakier than my friends with 9 fig NW that work ~80+ hours a week + have kids, etc. 

It comes down to not being serious. IMO those calls are a complete waste of time. I don't do calls at all anymore. They have 0 respect for other people's time. 

 

realizing I wrote the same exact thread as you lol. it’s just these covid kids never had the pressure of junior year and trying to get into good colleges because everything was just finessed at home down to the last standardized test. there are a few who are really bright but for the most part just bots

 

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