Resurrected - San Francisco
Yes this has been an absolute downer of a topic, and people on here years ago ragged on the city. Just starting this up to give some new perspective on how solid this city is.
Weather is better, pay is on par, social seen is solid even with covid, and rents are down. Seriously not as previous posters have told weary job seekers.
For all you that are here. Spill your two cents because frankly I just got here and I’ll definitely be staying.
The social scene is subpar. What are you doing
How's the homeless situation in your view?
“Weather is better.” As much as I’d enjoy accusing you of idiocy after this claim, I’ll say you’re a liar after 2020 witnessed forest fires that blanketed the Bay Area, the PNW, and most metros in the Rockies. The weather has gotten worse. Only visited for a weekend last month, but things in SF have not gotten any better on any metric you listed.
Lol “social scene is solid” - what is your definition of solid?
Bro probably has an armpit hair fetish.
Been in the bay 10+ years / in SF 5+ years.
Weather is probably better if you're coming from a place with snowy winters but 65* year round gets boring quick. Every day being the same dilutes the experience of transitioning to spring and summer (where it is absolutely foggy).
Wrt social scene: I think most people in the city are douchebags. But I also think that about finance so I'm probably just the wrong personality type to begin with. People shit on finance culture but in many ways tech seems even worse. At least finance has a significant population that is self-aware. It's an incredibly materialistic place out here and the amount of tech liquidity event wealth drives a lot of people to a great gatsby exuberant lifestyle that is completely and utterly out of touch with reality.
Bingo.
Silicon valley tech is equivalent to Wall Street finance. These all bird wearing mofo's can be just as toxic lol
But you don't come to SF to relax and have a chill / good time. You're here to make money. Make it and leave
SF is a great city for a certain type of person. Plenty of outdoor activities, relatively good weather and of course a good tech scene. There aren't many places where you can go surfing and skiing within a few hour drive. And there are also opportunities like Napa that are within driving distance and great as well. If your issue is the homelessness, the Bay Area also has tons of great suburbs with top schools and neighborhoods.
But if you're looking for great nightlife and want to be in California, then SF isn't the place to be. Try LA. Yes, rents are down but it's still quite high and the lower rents are arguably only a temporary event. That being said, COL of SF and NYC are very comparable, so despite the homelessness issue, SF isn't necessarily more expensive.
This really wasn’t a post to compare SF to NYC or state superiority over other cities. Just wanted to point out that the typical arguments why it sucks are not as valid as people claim then to be.
If you want to live at clubs then SF is not your choice. If you want to ski Tahoe, hit some national parks and always sit at the beach or surf on the weekend then it very well may be the spot for you.
Homelessness is so overdone. Philly is a mess yet people still enjoy Penn. Same type of argument could be used to deter you from going to NYU or living in parts of NYC.
I personally enjoy the bars here. People are cool if you look in the right places or have friends here as well.
Fully agree with making dough here and then making moves when the time comes. It’s all what you make it. The city is also full of transplants from everywhere so I think that’s cool too.
Keep flaming the post haha
Lived in SF for 5 years and moved out three weeks ago (heading to MBA elsewhere).
I liked my time in SF overall but it definitely has its cons. Overall I think the city is beautiful but and on a sunny/warm day found myself thinking fuck this place is great. On other days I thought fuck this place is a dump. My list of pros/cons are...
Pros:
Cons:
SF is a great place and I think people on here shit on it who haven't actually been there. Would I live there long-term? I dunno, maybe. It has its flaws, but it also has moments that make you want to stay forever. Go to Dolores park on a sunny weekend day and you'll see what I mean.
Absolutely love Dolores Park on a weekend.
I love SF. One of the best cities I have ever lived in. I couldn’t care less if others hate it. I hope more people hate it, and stay the F away so that there’s less house pricing pressure. Alas many others love the City and it’s become so pricey.
Outside of the homeless issues and property crime on the rise. SF you probably won't get mugged walking on the street. Bars, restaurants and transportation hubs are walking distance and the weather is typically between 40 to 65 all year round and the social scene is chill if you avoid techies and the out of town folk. The one thing I always found interesting was the lack of ego with a lot of people. I met plumbers at house parties who were clearing 100k a year. No one gives a shit. You need to chill out
Don’t want to highjack the thread, but was curious on thoughts about Santa Barbara? Have heard good things but never been. Any PE funds out there? How does living in SB compare to SF or LA?
Santa Barbara is an amazing and quiet small city. There is IGSB in Montecito and a few other small banks and funds. It's not a major finance city by any means but the quality of life is extremely high if you're working remotely or something. It's more similar to LA than SF since it's only a few hours north of LA. When I lived in SB it was quite feasible to do a weekend trip to LA and even easier to get around Ventura county. The weather is really good and while it is generally expensive, it feels like you get more for your money than cities like SF. There are also multiple Michelin starred restaurants downtown which are quite good. If you don't mind living in a retiree / wedding city it's really nice and I'm definitely planning to move back ASAP. Hope Ranch and Montecito have a ton of celebrity / business leader residences for a good reason!
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