Does your school have an alumni network? I'm sure you can find contacts in New York, either through that or LinkedIn. As you are coming form the UK to Wall Street and not from one of the big 3, I doubt too many people will contact the NYC alumni, and so they'll be impressed you have taken the initiative, and you can likely leverage their networks further. Also, see if people you know in the UK can put you in touch with guys in America - that might be a good connection. Being introduced is a great way to build your network.
and i'd check the bb's company policy.. and visa info.
i know for a US-based person to work in the UK.. its nearly impossible because UK makes you prove that you are the best candidate possible out of all the people then can hire in 1. UK 2. the EU..
She_Monkey you're actually wrong about US working in UK. It's very easy for UK employers in finance to get work permits for foreign nationals actually. Also if you have a masters/MBA and earn over £25000 you can usually qualify for a highly skilled worker visa. (I'm American and in the UK so I'm pretty clued up on all this!)
OP: I have two friends who interned at Lehman in NYC (doesn't help much now I know!), one was at Cambridge and the other at UCL. The Cambridge one is not American so must have been able to get a visa somehow. The UCL one has an American parent so has a US passport but did her education from age 10 in the UK. However your biggest problem is going to be that even if you get a FT offer, the company may not be able to secure the visa necessary for you to return to the US. If I were you I'd focus on the UK, especially since as you are already aware no one has heard of Warwick in the States, but it has a very good reputation for banks in London.
I'm also slightly skeptical about your S&T experience. In the UK students can do all of these week-long "internships" or Spring programs. These are not usually offered in the US and no one at an American bank is going to consider that legitimate experience. The only reason it's done in the UK is to make up for the fact that in a 3 year degree you only have 2 summers to intern. I can't imagine you've been able to get more experience than that as Warwick isn't close enough to London for you to be able to intern during the academic year.
I'm also slightly skeptical about your S&T experience. In the UK students can do all of these week-long "internships" or Spring programs. These are not usually offered in the US and no one at an American bank is going to consider that legitimate experience. The only reason it's done in the UK is to make up for the fact that in a 3 year degree you only have 2 summers to intern. I can't imagine you've been able to get more experience than that as Warwick isn't close enough to London for you to be able to intern during the academic year.
One of the them will be a S&T summer internship. Rest are 1 - 2 week programmes.
GS Securities, unlike other spring programmes, was paid and we got project work etc, even though it was only 10 days long.
I'm interested in NY, but that isn't too say I'm neglecting London. Infact, before summer recruiting starts, I may already have secured one or more London offers. I just seek the challenge and experience of NY.
One of the them will be a S&T summer internship. Rest are 1 - 2 week programmes.
GS Securities, unlike other spring programmes, was paid and we got project work etc, even though it was only 10 days long.
I'm interested in NY, but that isn't too say I'm neglecting London. Infact, before summer recruiting starts, I may already have secured one or more London offers. I just seek the challenge and experience of NY.
Like I said, American students don't do Spring programs. You're going to be competing against people who did 2 full summer internships in banking plus 1 in another field after their 1st year. I wouldn't cling to those and think that's going to make you hugely competitive, especially because of the lack of university name recognition.
By all means give it a shot though. I don't mean to discourage you, but you need to be realistic - especially now with constraints on visas, it will be LEGALLY difficult for you to get a place right now. Limiting recruitment of foreigners is a condition of TARP. Several of my friends in London want to move to the US and can't figure a way to do so - and these are people working in banking and consulting with 2 years post-MSc work experience.
However your biggest problem is going to be that even if you get a FT offer, the company may not be able to secure the visa necessary for you to return to the US.
Does that mean it'd be easier for banks to secure a visa for summer??
fp175:
no one has heard of Warwick in the States, but it has a very good reputation for banks in London
I'm a student at UCL. Have people heard of it in the US??
Does that mean it'd be easier for banks to secure a visa for summer??
I really don't know. I'd have to ask my friend how he managed it. Most foreign students interning in NYC are students at American universities, so they are allowed to work during the summer on a student visa.
PierreSonne:
I'm a student at UCL. Have people heard of it in the US??
After Oxbridge and LSE it's probably the next most known university, or maybe Imperial. Most Americans don't think very hard about foreign universities thought.
fp175- thanks for posting. awesome news. I love London..
I definitely had HR in the US to tell me not to bother thinking about working in London though :( (i.e. what I wrote- you have to prove that you're the best candidated in all of UK and EU. this was McK btw)
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Does your school have an alumni network? I'm sure you can find contacts in New York, either through that or LinkedIn. As you are coming form the UK to Wall Street and not from one of the big 3, I doubt too many people will contact the NYC alumni, and so they'll be impressed you have taken the initiative, and you can likely leverage their networks further. Also, see if people you know in the UK can put you in touch with guys in America - that might be a good connection. Being introduced is a great way to build your network.
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which uni do you go to
and i'd check the bb's company policy.. and visa info. i know for a US-based person to work in the UK.. its nearly impossible because UK makes you prove that you are the best candidate possible out of all the people then can hire in 1. UK 2. the EU..
Just out of curiosity, how were you able to amass S&T experience at 4 separate banks as a first year?
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She_Monkey you're actually wrong about US working in UK. It's very easy for UK employers in finance to get work permits for foreign nationals actually. Also if you have a masters/MBA and earn over £25000 you can usually qualify for a highly skilled worker visa. (I'm American and in the UK so I'm pretty clued up on all this!)
OP: I have two friends who interned at Lehman in NYC (doesn't help much now I know!), one was at Cambridge and the other at UCL. The Cambridge one is not American so must have been able to get a visa somehow. The UCL one has an American parent so has a US passport but did her education from age 10 in the UK. However your biggest problem is going to be that even if you get a FT offer, the company may not be able to secure the visa necessary for you to return to the US. If I were you I'd focus on the UK, especially since as you are already aware no one has heard of Warwick in the States, but it has a very good reputation for banks in London.
I'm also slightly skeptical about your S&T experience. In the UK students can do all of these week-long "internships" or Spring programs. These are not usually offered in the US and no one at an American bank is going to consider that legitimate experience. The only reason it's done in the UK is to make up for the fact that in a 3 year degree you only have 2 summers to intern. I can't imagine you've been able to get more experience than that as Warwick isn't close enough to London for you to be able to intern during the academic year.
One of the them will be a S&T summer internship. Rest are 1 - 2 week programmes. GS Securities, unlike other spring programmes, was paid and we got project work etc, even though it was only 10 days long.
I'm interested in NY, but that isn't too say I'm neglecting London. Infact, before summer recruiting starts, I may already have secured one or more London offers. I just seek the challenge and experience of NY.
Like I said, American students don't do Spring programs. You're going to be competing against people who did 2 full summer internships in banking plus 1 in another field after their 1st year. I wouldn't cling to those and think that's going to make you hugely competitive, especially because of the lack of university name recognition.
By all means give it a shot though. I don't mean to discourage you, but you need to be realistic - especially now with constraints on visas, it will be LEGALLY difficult for you to get a place right now. Limiting recruitment of foreigners is a condition of TARP. Several of my friends in London want to move to the US and can't figure a way to do so - and these are people working in banking and consulting with 2 years post-MSc work experience.
Does that mean it'd be easier for banks to secure a visa for summer??
I'm a student at UCL. Have people heard of it in the US??
I really don't know. I'd have to ask my friend how he managed it. Most foreign students interning in NYC are students at American universities, so they are allowed to work during the summer on a student visa.
After Oxbridge and LSE it's probably the next most known university, or maybe Imperial. Most Americans don't think very hard about foreign universities thought.
fp175- thanks for posting. awesome news. I love London..
I definitely had HR in the US to tell me not to bother thinking about working in London though :( (i.e. what I wrote- you have to prove that you're the best candidated in all of UK and EU. this was McK btw)
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