So, AROD and the roid bunch finallly got handed down thier suspensions.
I understand that the collective bargaining agreement forces Selig and MLB to negotiate here, but I'd really like to see this force the union to look at harsher penalties that include contract nullification and lifetime bans for second offenders, and a minimum 2 season ban for first time offenders.
The incentives are currently still WAY out of whack...as much as I'd love to see Arod's salary cripple the Yankees from 2015 on, I really think it hurts the game to have this guy still playing then.
Thoughts?
As a Red Sox fan, still think it is unfair he got 211 games without ever testing positive, yet Braun got way less while testing positive. Also, people are now apparently making a huge fuss about how the list is discriminatory since most of the people on the list are Latino. Personally, I think it just shows who uses that person/facility.
As a Yankees fan, I'm pretty pumped we're gonna be saving somewhere around $35 mil by this POS getting suspended. Yeah, he basically won us the 2009 WS, but I'd trade that ring to go back and pretend that contract never happened.
Also glad to see that a player the Yankees traded away (Jesus Montero) got busted too. Not that I wish the guy poorly, but I was on the fence about the trade, and now it seems like a better decision.
yeah, that has me conflicted about the ban as a Red Sox fan...
Jesus Montero (Mariners) was juicing?!?! he needs to get a refund...
Sport is a joke.
I can totally get Yankee haters being annoyed about it (Buck Showalter comes to mind), but the fact of the matter is the ban is meant to punish the player, not the team. People can't expect the Yankees to be punished for the actions of their players.
I think the teams that have a player banned shouldn't have to pay the salary, but it should count toward their payroll for luxury tax purposes as a way to punish them as well.
This way, teams may be much more hesitant to sign that guy who just suddenly hit 50 HRs after never having hit over 25 for his entire career...they know if they pay him $15-20m per year and he is caught, he will still hurt them if they are near the tax.
Would get at least some self-policing going, or no is this a stupid idea?
Without sounding like an asshole (because I really do appreciate any baseball discussion amongst intelligent people rather than the constant bashing of the sport), I personally think that would be an awful idea. Think of how much it would cripple a team with a low payroll who is trying to stay under a lower luxury tax bracket. Yeah, for the Yankees, Red Sox, Phillies, LA teams, Chicago teams, etc., not really a big deal, but for maybe a smaller market team looking to pick up their one big contract while staying under a lower tax bracket (not the $189 mil one the Yankees are trying to get under), it could really cripple them.
Not that I care about the little guys, as a Yankees fan :)
That makes no sense...you do reallize the Yankees and a handful of other teams are the only ones that have ever paid luxury tax, right?
So, what I am saying, is that if a player is suspended or banned because of steroids, their contract should still count as payroll, even if it's not being paid out, just for luxury tax purposes.
90+% of the teams are nowhere near the luxury tax, so this would really only hurt the Yankees and Sox a bit, which I think is more fair...
So by that logic, someone like Chris Davis (who is probably clean) should get effed over for hitting 35+ bombs before the All Star Break, just because he's never hit like that before? Edwin Encarncacion shouldn't get a solid contract extension because he's never hit that many bombs consistently? That's unfair to them.
Also, it's really unfair to screw the team over because someone made an individual decision to take roids. The team tries its best to field the best possible team because it's what the fans want. I am all for voiding the contracts of players who juice, but to screw over clean players who tweak their game to get better and to screw over teams for giving the fans what they want sound doesn't sound fair.
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