Asian Americans, are you more likely to take a call if a student is also asian american?
I know a lot of other groups have pretty strong kinship in the industry. Would love to see more asian american solidarity in finance.
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Don't care about it. I rarely respond to a cold call emails unless the individual reaching out is from my undergrad/MBA or referred by someone I know
That’s not rlly a thing. Also this Asian American identity is a little fake tbh. Like wtf does a first gen Chinese dude who moved to NY as a kid have in common with a third generation Korean dude from LA who barely speaks Korean himself.
KFS is a thing, Korean's will help each other out. Maybe not super white-washed Koreans, but the average 1st or 2nd generation ones will.
Yeah I second this. For Asian Americans as a whole there’s also AAAIM. Some colleges also have a lot of Asian finance organizations like ALI or WKUBS. There are definitely Asians out there who would help out others.
KFS is more so a program for Koreans / KAs. might not help out randos who are not in it but koreans (esp. 1st gen) will 100% be more receptive to other koreans vs. others, just a culture thing
Nobodys gonna say it because people would never fess up to something like this.
But come on mate, human nature. The closer you get to literally looking someone identical to you in the eyes, the more likely you are to at least treat them mildly differently
Asian Americans don’t gaf lol
But realistically we should ngl
Gonna be honest, no and if anything I will be more critical. Your personality can’t just be boba and League of Legends
Bruh why. Do you criticize white kids for just liking football and mcdonalds like what
that's hilarious omgosh
Anyone from the subcontinent with anyone who speaks their regional language, very likely will double so if both involved are first-gen and/or immigrants. Interestingly, I have also observed this across religious lines, The whole Indians hiring other Indians is not based on complete lies.
idk why ppl think this but as asian-americans we're not a monolith. I don't have much in common with them other than being asian lol
We aren't, but in practice, we're perceived as one regardless. I just think it's a bit presumptuous to assume that not helping our own, even if they happen to be outside our immediate ethnicity, won't put us behind in any way on the societal hierarchy..
That is an extremely American view of things. From your comments it sounds like you are second/third gen Asian with a small family business in America (restaurant/laundromat/etc……). Very similar to the type of Asian described in the show fresh off the boat. However a good chunk of Asians I see in my EB and in this industry are ppl that went to international school in Asia and came to the US for high school or college. There is no shared struggle or even share cultural values atp. In fact many of them look down upon the people in their own ethnicity that are too westernized. They believe they are Asian, and you are American. There is no Asian American.
AFAIK the contemporary “Asian American” identity stems from the Subtle Asian Traits FB page where they make the life of 2nd/3rd gen asians from SoCal and the Bay Area sound like some sort of ubiquitous experience all east asians in western hemisphere experience. But no that is not the reality.
Offer in my hand, no offer in your hand...
No, I only take calls from kids from my alma mater, kids referred to me, or attractive girls.
Only if we are from the same village
Unironically?
Like someone else pointed out Asian American doesn’t make sense as a term to clump ppl together. It’s very tribal. North/South Indians don’t even like each other, forget about an Indian helping out a Pakistani just because they were both ‘Asian’
I think the flipside of the Indian thing is that any of the Indians or Pakistanis are very open to helping people of their ethnic background. So there is simultaneously a lot of helping and not any helping at all, depending on exact demographics, languages spoken, and cultures. For example is if you are Marathi and can find other Marathi speakers, the response rate to emails is absurdly high in IB if included in the resume, and once you get the response, they are typically very willing to give references. Lower odds for 3rd gen+ Indians, but most Indians in America are immigrants or 2nd gen, where it's much more prevalent.
I would never say no to a coffee chat if it was an Asian bro. I do understand the challenges of being born Asian in this world and would like to lift up others with the benefit of the position I’m now in - ie an Asian associate in team of white chads - show them it is definitelypossible despite the weaker odds
Althiugh it’s not just that and I’ll also give a nod to people coming up from working class backgrounds like myself and maybe didn’t necessarily have the best gpa but spent a lot of their spare time doing part time work (even if something like a best buy)
Yeah I can definitely relate haha. I came from a family with a restaurant background and we all worked a lot growing up. Glad to see that at least some asians are willing to pull each other up. It's sad to see how critical people have been of fellow asians on this thread..
Haha yeah… Vietnamese Chinese Korean whatever. In the eyes of the world we’re the same - we’re all ij the same situation and gotta help each other out. East Asians are not represented well in c suite and md ranks we still have some way to go
Yes looking back -- might be just a psychological thing that I am more like to respond to someone who probably shares a similar background as me
but ofc more likely to respond to someone who went to the same school
There is no such thing as an "Asian American" identity. It's some modern era political correctness racial bullshit trying to categorize so many different nationalities, many of which want nothing to do with (or straight up hate) each other, under a single umbrella. You can do it for American blacks because go far enough back and for most of them you can't actually trace their heritage back to a single culture/country. But the Japanese are nothing like the Chinese who are nothing like the Vietnamese, repeat for Laotian, Korean, Thai, Indonesian, Indian, Pakistani, Mongolian, etc.
BS answer. Calling people "blacks" is crazy, nobody says anything about the "whites". And many black people obviously cant trace their heritage because of slavery, which is why the African American identity exists and is more monolithic than Asian Americans who are more likely to know their roots and have international identities. It has nothing to do with "political correctness" or "racial bullshit", you're just a loser who watches too much conservative manosphere TikTok and need to go outside
Yes, I'm sure the blacks that started black lives matter and self-identify as members of the black community are super offended and being called black. I bet they really hated it when the former black President went on TV and would regularly make addresses directly to the black community during the last election cycle about how they needed to support the black female candidate. Find me a single instance of Kamala being called an African American instead of black in a live setting and I'll straight up venmo you $100. I'd bet money you don't even understand the etymology of the terms "Asian American" and "African American" or how they became common parts of the lexicon. If your go-to insult is assuming someone watches tik tok when it's your blatant ignorance on display, you're the one who needs to go outside bud.
The entire point I was asserting was the exact same thing you just restated in your idiotic rambling about how black Americans have a more monolithic cultural identifier than Asian Americans who instead can trace & identify with their separate ethnic roots rather than as a collective, so congrats on somehow belligerently agreeing with me in the end. Well done, dumbass.
Nah this take lacks nuance. There is most definitely some cohesion between Asian Americans and common cultural ties based around values and filial piety.
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