Aziz Ansari becomes a victim of MeToo

First, it goes without saying that men who actually rape or assault women or use their power to blackmail, threaten, or intimidate women into engaging in sex, are disgusting human beings who should be castrated and locked up. There is no excuse for it: period.

At the same time though, an unfortunate consequence of MeToo is that it fails to blur the clear line of demarcation between what I described above and male-female social and sexual interaction that comes across as awkward or uncomfortable. In addition, MeToo essentially infantilizes women, treating them as helpless agents who have no control over any aspect of an interaction with a man, as if they are observing from afar. This is ultimately degrading to women and not helpful to their empowerment.

This brings us to Aziz Ansari. I'm a huge fan, so I when I first read the headlines, I was absolutely shocked and disappointed. Then, I read the account by the woman, who submitted it to the salacious babes.net website. I became convinced that Ansari is the victim, falsely accused of sexual assault.

Here is a brief synopsis of the events that transpired:

  1. The woman, a 23-year old Brooklyn photographer who is referred to as "Grace" in the article, attended the Emmy after party last September, in L.A. She was there with a date. She noticed that Aziz was taking pictures with vintage 80's camera, the same kind that she uses. She was a bit drunk and felt confident and approached Aziz. They started talking, but since she was already there with a date, their interaction was limited.

  2. As she was leaving, Aziz approached her and asked for her number. The next day, she flew back to NYC. Over the next week, they exchanged flirtatious text messages and agreed to go on a date.

  3. "Grace" was super pumped up, excited to be going out with a funny comedian and a celebrity. She consulted her friends on what to wear.

  4. On date night, Aziz told her to meet him at his apartment for pre-drinks, which she did. Afterwards, they went to a seafood restaurant a few blocks from Aziz's apartment (any other straight bros also arrange to meet with a girl not too far from his apartment? yeah this is something we've all done). They had dinner and drinks, and Aziz suggested they go back to his place. "Grace" thought it was "strange" that he wanted to go back to his place so quickly, but they walked back.

  5. Once they were at his place, Aziz got aggressive, making sexual innuendos and kissing her. "Grace" said she was uncomfortable and said they were going too fast. At no point was Aziz forcing himself upon her, making threats, or preventing "Grace" from leaving. Somehow, magically, despite her reservation, Aziz managed to get her naked and performed oral sex on her. Finally, she left before they actually had sexual intercourse.

"Grace" subsequently told her girlfriends that it was the "worst" night of her life. So here's what Aziz is guilty of: bad game and being too thirsty and misreading social cues. Aziz was a dork most of his life, and especially as an Asian man growing up in South Carolina, I'm sure it was rough for him socially. Now, he's rich and famous (he lives in the same Tribeca apartment building as Taylor Swift), and he's milking it for all that it's worth, and quite frankly, I don't blame him. "Grace" obviously wanted to date a celebrity, to become his girlfriend and was disappointed when it turned out that Aziz just wanted to fuck her. Uh yea, he's a straight man. "Grace," as an adult and an independent agent, had numerous chances to walk away. Yet, she chose to go home with him (did she think that they were gonna play Starcraft at his place?), and she chose to let him undress her and get to "third base."

Personal responsibility matters. Unfortunately, stories like this take away from actual victims of rape and assault and undermine the purpose of MeToo.

 
BobTheBaker:
This assumes conservative born-again Christian guys aren't savages like the rest of us. I call bs on that assumption... even though I know this comment was sarcasm.

I honestly don't know whether or not I'm being tongue-in-cheek. I did grow up evangelical, guys did manage to date and live this way, and I'd probably still be one if a God-approved marriage were something that would work for me.

To be honest, a surprising number of Christians are goody-goodies who walk the talk. They have something Aziz doesn't have: Jesus.

I don't know everything that happens but I would honestly be more surprised to hear that there was sex on the first date than to hear that they waited until marriage.

 
IlliniProgrammer:
This is why liberal women need to date conservative born-again Christian guys who won't do anything until they're married.

We've come full circle--new wave feminism has become the sexually prude "conservatives" that they despised in the 1960s. Feminists want men to behave as the Bible instructs men to behave--as gentlemen, waiting until marriage for sex, not straying with other women, and showing love and gentleness with their wives. While BobtheBaker believes this behavior is few and far between, I would say that that good behavior was the norm in the far-right conservative church I grew up in that still dominates Washington, D.C. today.

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I was thinking the same thing. It is absurd! The far-left also now basically believes in bullying, ad hominems, doxxing as long as it is in response to a perceived injustice, even if that injustice is some form of bullying, ad hominem, doxxing. Down the rabbit hole we go...

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Where is the chase, and how do I cut to it? I've met Aziz a few times and have hung out with him and Alan Yang before. Aziz is probably confused and pissed off. It's not like he forced her to go out with him. It's not like he forced her back to his apartment. It's not like he forced her to get naked. And like the goofy little shit that he is, he didn't even get laid--he ate her out, then she left without reciprocating. If this happened in reverse, and she sucked his dick, then he threw her out of his place so he could go to sleep in peace, that would be fucked up.

Instead, she got excited about going out with a celebrity. It turns out, Aziz isn't Brad Pitt, so when things inevitably got physical (a virtual guarantee given the lead up to returning to his apartment), she got uncomfortable because she wasn't attracted to him. Instead of saying that and leaving or simply refusing to go back to his place right after dinner, she wanted to remain in the proximity of his celebrity, so she chose to stay. She left with buyer's remorse because hooking up with Aziz isn't quite the story she was hoping for. And because the #MeToo Movement conflates actual sexual misconduct with simply regretting a hookup, Aziz gets his name dragged through the mud. That's a bit ridiculous.

He apologized because he didn't mean to make her feel bad, but she needs to grow up a bit and take responsibility for herself. Aziz is the least threatening person in existence. My 4-year-old nephew with epilepsy could kick his ass during one of his fits. She wasn't there against her will. She made a series of choices. She should own that.

And Aziz should stop going out with dumb 23-year-old photographers. Obviously, he wanted to fuck her. Obviously, she was going to be a nightmare. Women like this harm the movement.

 

Couldn't have summed it up any better, it's a disgrace. I wish he would come out and call it for what it is but he can't, gotta appease the media and keep stacking your chips. It's like the whole Wahlberg pay bullshit, the chic Michelle Williams (who I had to google cuz I had no idea who she was) takes $1,000 for the reshoots in #metoo solidarity, which is fine, but then Wahlberg gets villified for charging his regular fee and the media runs with the story that he was paid 1500 times more than her, which is bullshit because she willingly took a significant pay cut. So of course Wahlberg, because he wants to keep stacking his chips, has to come out and say he's donating it all to the metoo movement. Just terrible. What's worse is that Mark SHOULD make more than this chic, I DIDN'T KNOW WHO SHE WAS.

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BobTheBaker:
Couldn't have summed it up any better, it's a disgrace. I wish he would come out and call it for what it is but he can't, gotta appease the media and keep stacking your chips. It's like the whole Wahlberg pay bullshit, the chic Michelle Williams (who I had to google cuz I had no idea who she was) takes $1,000 for the reshoots in #metoo solidarity, which is fine, but then Wahlberg gets villified for charging his regular fee and the media runs with the story that he was paid 1500 times more than her, which is bullshit because she willingly took a significant pay cut. So of course Wahlberg, because he wants to keep stacking his chips, has to come out and say he's donating it all to the metoo movement. Just terrible. What's worse is that Mark SHOULD make more than this chic, I DIDN'T KNOW WHO SHE WAS.

This is an issue where we actually agree. Wahlberg was the highest paid actor of 2017, bringing him $68 million. Also, Williams' contract required her to do the re-shoot while Wahlberg's contract did not. Thus, he charged his going rate to do them while Williams did it for whatever they offered to pay. The SJWs have argued that the directors offered her so little because she is a woman, a sign of endemic sexism in the movie industry. But it's basic economics. If a contract requires her to do the re-shoot, why would you pay her more than the absolute minimum?

 
brotherbear:
Where is the chase, and how do I cut to it? I've met Aziz a few times and have hung out with him and Alan Yang before. Aziz is probably confused and pissed off. It's not like he forced her to go out with him. It's not like he forced her back to his apartment. It's not like he forced her to get naked. And like the goofy little shit that he is, he didn't even get laid--he ate her out, then she left without reciprocating. If this happened in reverse, and she sucked his dick, then he threw her out of his place so he could go to sleep in peace, that would be fucked up.

Instead, she got excited about going out with a celebrity. It turns out, Aziz isn't Brad Pitt, so when things inevitably got physical (a virtual guarantee given the lead up to returning to his apartment), she got uncomfortable because she wasn't attracted to him. Instead of saying that and leaving or simply refusing to go back to his place right after dinner, she wanted to remain in the proximity of his celebrity, so she chose to stay. She left with buyer's remorse because hooking up with Aziz isn't quite the story she was hoping for. And because the #MeToo Movement conflates actual sexual misconduct with simply regretting a hookup, Aziz gets his name dragged through the mud. That's a bit ridiculous.

He apologized because he didn't mean to make her feel bad, but she needs to grow up a bit and take responsibility for herself. Aziz is the least threatening person in existence. My 4-year-old nephew with epilepsy could kick his ass during one of his fits. She wasn't there against her will. She made a series of choices. She should own that.

And Aziz should stop going out with dumb 23-year-old photographers. Obviously, he wanted to fuck her. Obviously, she was going to be a nightmare. Women like this harm the movement.

What was your impression of Aziz from the times you hung out with him? He seems like someone who is still socially awkward around attractive women despite his celebrity and money. My basic theory is that if you were not a ladies' man by the time you finish college, no amount of money and fame will transform you into a natural stud.

 

I mean--we just had a few drinks. I spent more time speaking with Alan because I think he's clever, and I like writers. I think your impression is right, though. Aziz isn't exactly a ladies man. I think you can learn to be better and more comfortable around women, but if you're not particularly successful in high school and college, you're probably going to struggle with awkwardness for most of your adult life.

To be clear, I think most men are at least a little awkward when trying to get laid. Have you ever watched/been forced to witness the horror show that is the modern dating scene? It's a joke. If you feel like you're trying too hard, you are. Closing requires a lack of desperation. At some point, though, you have to make some sort of move.

I suppose you could have a discussion about each other's level of sexual interest in the other, but I've only ever had that conversation right before I was about to get laid anyway as a means of teasing the other person. What would that sound like in a bar or a restaurant? "Umm...excuse me, Grace. I was wondering how you'd feel about me asking whether you'd like to blow me? Now, I'm not asking you to do so. That would be too forward, madam. I merely pose the hypothetical."

I view that conversation as painfully awkward. And if making a person feel awkward is all that's required for harassment these days, then I feel most encounters are subject to some level of this kind of awkwardness (especially if you make people have this chat beforehand).

 
brotherbear:
Instead, she got excited about going out with a celebrity. It turns out, Aziz isn't Brad Pitt, so when things inevitably got physical (a virtual guarantee given the lead up to returning to his apartment), she got uncomfortable because she wasn't attracted to him. Instead of saying that and leaving or simply refusing to go back to his place right after dinner, she wanted to remain in the proximity of his celebrity, so she chose to stay. She left with buyer's remorse because hooking up with Aziz isn't quite the story she was hoping for.

I would analyze this situation a bit differently. I think she wanted to date Aziz Ansari, not just have a one night stand dressed up in the guise of a romantic dinner date. And when she finally realized that he was just looking for the hookup, she was massively disappointed. I think if she wasn't attracted to him she wouldn't have gone back to his place, given it's obvious what that would involve

As far as a guy's intentions go, going for a touchdown on date 1 speaks for itself

 

Yeah, most ladies I talk to that are with a date give me their number because they are looking long term lol

<span class=keyword_link><a href=/resources/skills/finance/going-concern>Going Concern</a></span>:
brotherbear:
Instead, she got excited about going out with a celebrity. It turns out, Aziz isn't Brad Pitt, so when things inevitably got physical (a virtual guarantee given the lead up to returning to his apartment), she got uncomfortable because she wasn't attracted to him. Instead of saying that and leaving or simply refusing to go back to his place right after dinner, she wanted to remain in the proximity of his celebrity, so she chose to stay. She left with buyer's remorse because hooking up with Aziz isn't quite the story she was hoping for.

I would analyze this situation a bit differently. I think she wanted to date Aziz Ansari, not just have a one night stand dressed up in the guise of a romantic dinner date. And when she finally realized that he was just looking for the hookup, she was massively disappointed. I think if she wasn't attracted to him she wouldn't have gone back to his place, given it's obvious what that would involve

As far as a guy's intentions go, going for a touchdown on date 1 speaks for itself

If the glove don't fit, you must acquit!
 

In this case, I am absolutely "victim" shaming. Well that is if she is the victim, in reality he is the victim in this instance.

Follow the shit your fellow monkeys say @shitWSOsays Life is hard, it's even harder when you're stupid - John Wayne
 

I would be fucking bewildered by this if I were Aziz. Like he took a chick back to his crib, she didn't wanna fuck so they didn't and she willingly sucked his dick then left. And that's now sexual assault.

Now I was curious what the reaction would be on Twitter to all of this so I read through many tweets. Reaction from the #metoo side is that she didn't consent fully and so he should've stopped aggressively pursuing. I agree that she didn't consent to sex. But there are three problems after we all agree she didn't consent: 1. They didn't have sex. 2. She absolutely consented to oral sex by willingly sucking him off. 3. 98% of girls will not be the pursuer in a sexual situation even if they want it. So men either can be the pursuer and potentially get denied OR not the be pursuer and potentially miss an opportunity. Now people are saying that option 1 makes you a sexual assaulter. So I guess the answer now is go for option 2 and turn women off by being a coward.

Overall 'Grace' was upset after the fact being he didn't get her engines revving enough. Having regret about a sexual encounter doesn't make it sexual assault on its own. Men can't take risks if that were the case.

 

Sure, it's all getting absurd at this point, but fuck Aziz.

He's the exact type of asshole who would publicly condemn some other guy in this exact clown-world situation, while smugly sniffing his own farts and looking for affirmation from his SJW following. His comedy also went to shit and his latest specials have basically been "stupid men, amirite? hahahaha", "stupid white bros, amirite? hahahaha", "stupid sexists, like just be a normal guy, amirite? hahahaha", "stupid racists, like luv 4 all, amirite? hahahaha". What a loser. He's still unbelievably insecure about himself as a man and it completely shows.

I love that he got his hypocritical hand bitten by his own pet sense of "justice", and I can't wait to hear who the next celebrity sacrifice will be.

 

It has been this way on college campuses for years. Shit it doesn't even have to be immediately after, it can be months later.

Follow the shit your fellow monkeys say @shitWSOsays Life is hard, it's even harder when you're stupid - John Wayne
 
Pmc2ghy:
Sure, it's all getting absurd at this point, but fuck Aziz.

He's the exact type of asshole who would publicly condemn some other guy in this exact clown-world situation, while smugly sniffing his own farts and looking for affirmation from his SJW following. His comedy also went to shit and his latest specials have basically been "stupid men, amirite? hahahaha", "stupid white bros, amirite? hahahaha", "stupid sexists, like just be a normal guy, amirite? hahahaha", "stupid racists, like luv 4 all, amirite? hahahaha". What a loser. He's still unbelievably insecure about himself as a man and it completely shows.

I love that he got his hypocritical hand bitten by his own pet sense of "justice", and I can't wait to hear who the next celebrity sacrifice will be.

Exactly this. Fuck this SJW Aziz.

 

Seriously how can you assault someone when your dick is in their mouth? They have all the power in that situation.

I stopped reading once I got to that part. I could maybe buy a version of events where Aziz was overly aggressive and fingered this girl against her will and therefore is at fault. As soon as she started blowing him though, the whole thing is 100% consensual. He didn’t make her do that and all she had to do if she didn’t want to do it was keep her mouth shut.

I agree that he has brought this on himself to a certain extent. The only reason that babe published this is because he is such a champion of #MeToo and Master of None paints him as a lovelorn nice guy.

 

Agreed with the above, but I think it’s even more obvious than that. If it wasn’t consensual, this Grace person and this babe “publication” would have had zero hesitation in using the word rape in the title, description, captions, etc. Which of course is entirely absent, since the only crime that Aziz committed is foolishly assuming that a girl who’s sitting naked on his kitchen counter and sucking his penor is looking to have secks

 

From the original article:

Grace says she spent around five minutes in the bathroom, collecting herself in the mirror and splashing herself with water. Then she went back to Ansari. He asked her if she was okay. “I said I don’t want to feel forced because then I’ll hate you, and I’d rather not hate you,” she said.

She told babe that at first, she was happy with how he reacted. “He said, ‘Oh, of course, it’s only fun if we’re both having fun.’ The response was technically very sweet and acknowledging the fact that I was very uncomfortable. Verbally, in that moment, he acknowledged that I needed to take it slow. Then he said, ‘Let’s just chill over here on the couch.’”

This moment is particularly significant for Grace, because she thought that would be the end of the sexual encounter — her remark about not wanting to feel “forced” had added a verbal component to the cues she was trying to give him about her discomfort. When she sat down on the floor next to Ansari, who sat on the couch, she thought he might rub her back, or play with her hair — something to calm her down.

Ansari instructed her to turn around. “He sat back and pointed to his penis and motioned for me to go down on him. And I did. I think I just felt really pressured. It was literally the most unexpected thing I thought would happen at that moment because I told him I was uncomfortable.”

Soon, he pulled her back up onto the couch. She would tell her friend via text later that night, “He [made out] with me again and says, ‘Doesn’t look like you hate me.’”

Halfway into the encounter, he led her from the couch to a different part of his apartment. He said he had to show her something. Then he brought her to a large mirror, bent her over and asked her again, “Where do you want me to fuck you? Do you want me to fuck you right here?” He rammed his penis against her ass while he said it, pantomiming intercourse.

“I just remember looking in the mirror and seeing him behind me. He was very much caught up in the moment and I obviously very much wasn’t,” Grace said. “After he bent me over is when I stood up and said no, I don’t think I’m ready to do this, I really don’t think I’m going to do this. And he said, ‘How about we just chill, but this time with our clothes on?’”

They got dressed, sat side by side on the couch they’d already “chilled” on, and he turned on an episode of Seinfeld. She’d never seen it before. She said that’s when the reality of what was going on sank in. “It really hit me that I was violated. I felt really emotional all at once when we sat down there. That that whole experience was actually horrible.”

While the TV played in the background, he kissed her again, stuck his fingers down her throat again, and moved to undo her pants.

Can someone explain to me why this isn't assault?

 

Feeling pressured to have sex, then doing so (in this case oral), is not sexual assault. I don't know how much simpler I can make this.

After he bent me over is when I stood up and said no, I don't think I'm ready to do this, I really don't think I'm going to do this. And he said, 'How about we just chill, but this time with our clothes on?'"

She rejected him and he immediately obliged, thus he never, at any point, forced her to do anything.

At this point she could've chosen to leave but instead she goes back to the couch to sit with him. Then, of course, being a guy, he pushes the issue again. She had multiple opportunities to forcefully reject him and end the night but she didn't. This has gotten outrageous, aggresive sexual behavior, like that of Ansari's, is now considered assault. Then you post the account as if a rational individual is supposed to read it and come away with that conclusion. Holy hell. You would do well to read that op-ed Going Concern posted. This type of attitude is setting women back, not empowering them.

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I've read the op-ed. It is flawed. You should read psychological research behind how victims of sexual assault respond in the moment. Many report freezing, feeling unable to move or leave. Many relent to the coercion and go through the motions as they do not want to risk making the encounter more violent or forced. Easier to give in and do something you don't really want to do than it is to forcefully reject and risk making the situation worse.

 

I'll explain to you why this isn't assault in fact I'll give you ten reasons just from the excerpt you added. 1. She went to his house willingly not once but twice! 2. She got naked. Mind you he did not tear her clothes. She said he took it off but there is no way someone can take your clothes off without your cooperation without tearing them. You go to the bathroom naked, come out naked, no mention of a robe or a towel wrapped around while frantically searching for your clothes? nooo instead? She wanted a backrub! 3. Why did she go seat naked with a man on a couch and say she gave none verbal signs that she didn't want to have sex? His apartment is not a topless beach in France! 4. What the fuck was her hoping he would rub her back or pet her hair to make her feel better? Is she his 8 months pregnant wife? I mean seriously WTF??? 5. He instructed you to go down on him and you did? Really??? Like he pulled out his gun or something? 6. He led her to a different part of the apartment? And she followed at no point was she kicking or screaming or saying no. 7. When she finally said no thats when they got dressed no pressure from the dude he let her get dressed. 8. At this time can you tell me what the fuck she was doing going back to the couch with him to watch Seinfeld? for 9.99 she can binge watch that shit from any multitude of devices AWAY from his apartment. 9. HE WAS THE ONE WHO SUGGESTED THEY CHILL WITH THEIR CLOTHES ON!!! She didn't even offer to cover her ass and titties up! 10. When she said she wanted to leave he got her an Uber and she left. He even paid for the ride! My analysis? She had a bad date, didn't like it, hoped he would be her forever love, dude just wanted to get laid. She had a date came on to him exchanged flirty texts with him. It's high time women are allowed to fight their battles like the men they demand to be treated as. You cannot claim to be powerful and assertive and demand to be treated equal, then at the first sign of troubled waters turn around and claim to be victimized and say shit like "I was frozen, terrified, petrified, could not think/act/leave." A swift kick to the balls will drop any man to his knees. If you want to seat at the big people table and play the big people games, then you goddamn put on your big people pants! Just my 0.005 cents.

If you ain't talking money I can't hear you, your volume is somehow low.
 

I didn't read this stuff and really don't care, also his show sucks and he isn't funny.

I am wondering if any extremely handsome or good looking man has been caught up in the #MeToo stuff or if it is just ugly dorks and creepy male feminists?

 

I liked Master of None at first but then he spoke French for 3 episodes and I'm like what the fuck fuck this little tree elf looking fag

heister: Look at all these wannabe richies hating on an expensive salad. https://arthuxtable.com/
 

This #MeToo trend is going too far. Notice its almost always(not in this case the OP mentioned) white men being accused. Coincidence? Who knows. What we do know is that men can lose their entire career and therefore livelihood just based on an accusation, no proof or due process necessary. Soon, just looking at a woman or saying something flirty will be "sexual harassment"- oh wait- it already is. What a fucked up state of affairs we have with gender relations in this country and the media and corporations are simply vehicles for perpetuating this agenda of #MeToo as a part of feminism's androgyny agenda and leftist cultural marxism. Well, I guess it's time to grab a plane ticket to Thailand, Philippines or Colombia while the gettin is still good...

 

Love it.

These liberal idealogical movements all inevitably turn into a competition of who's the biggest victim and entirely cannabilize themselves.

Advice to the young bucks, always make sure you have a plan in case the girl feels regret the next day. I always used to send a playful text while in the cab back to my place or whatever, usually "Hey what're you up to?" And they respond about being on the way to the smash-pit with an IBD stud. Just so it's in writing and she knows it squashed.

 

I remember reading this article last year and went searching for it. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/nov/26/should-i-report-se…

This is the problem with the #metoo movement. Weak Women now want to punish men for all their bad decisions on dating and it's just wrong! Notice I said weak women and not all women. Because I believe that a strong woman knows when she's messed up, she tells herself never again and moves on. She doesn't get vindictive and ruin another human simply because she can.

If you ain't talking money I can't hear you, your volume is somehow low.
 

Yeah--Ben Affleck got called out for the exact thing you cited, so that was a terrible example. So did Matt Damon when he suggested that there are gradations and nuances that the MeToo movement is overlooking. People campaigned to get him ousted from the next Ocean's movie. It's not like he brought it up out of nowhere. He was asked in an interview what he thought, and after bending over backwards to support the movement, the mere suggestion that there might be some overreach as a result of painting every situation with the same brush got him shit on big time. The movement doesn't do itself any favors when its proponents attack other proponents because they are less aggrieved than the most injured person in the mob. It's stupid.

 

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Jamoldo
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From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”