Best Passport?

Considering changing my citizenship to something that might reduce my taxes, and give me visa-free travel to some of the world's best hotspots. No, I do not want to be American, and yes, I would prefer someplace where I could stay for a relatively long period (so that cuts Bermuda, etc.). Any ideas, guys?

Also this article was the one that drove me to these considerations: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-0…

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Too small, too irrelevant, too dependent on other countries FP.

I'm leaning more towards Swiss-style countries, or places in the Caribbean. That being said, Liech is great for tax purposes.

GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."
 

As far as I know, citizenship is extremely difficult and lengthy to change and it has nothing to do with taxes - you can be considered resident for tax purposes in one country but your citizenship would stay the one you got by birth. To change that, probably once you've established your residence abroad you'd have to live there for a minimum number of years prior to applying, I'd guess...

 

By a citizenship change, I mean changing my passport. From the way I see Indians and Chinese swapping citizenship for the US passport, it should be a piece of cake.

GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."
 

12 long years. Tough, but I think worth it.

GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."
 

Can't believe you got so much MS for this. I think people are missing the forest for the trees.

I'm with you dawg . . . USA all the way.

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Yep, 18-47. That's tough. 18-30's more like it.

GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."
 

Look at the SE Asian and African Island nations. You can basically get away with anything in these places and are mostly used as tax havens for corporations so travel visas should be easy to obtain since high ranking government officials use these places to hide money from bribes and what not.

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SE Asian? African Island? Which ones?

Only know of Singapore, and now they're toughening up the rules. Plus draft.

GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."
 

Germany was near the top of my list, but I think you'll have to learn the language and stuff no? I'm a lazy basterd.

GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."
 

Yeah that dude murdered in Dubai right? But then they also used British, Aussie and American passports.

GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."
 

Yeah you're right actually, it was pretty nuts haha- http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/israeli-spy-sourced-details-for-pa….

I think the appeal of Irish passports would be - Non Nato Member, non colonial history and aside from the troubles with the Brits we have been a pretty much conflict free nation so we seem to have rather strong diplomatic ties and can get into a shit ton of countries.

 
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Interesting shout but as of 2014, citizens from the country now need a visa to travel to Canada. And since the implementation of FATCA and other tax laws, it's been a challenge for American citizens to hide their money in what were once considered Caribbean tax havens. They basically pressured the islands' governments to comply with their terms and regulations. So financial institutions in these islands now ask you for stuff like your SSN and report to the US if you have more than 50k in your account as an American.

Here's a list of the countries who have some sort of agreement in place in regards to FATCA:

https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/tax-policy/treaties/Pages/FATC…

OP be wary that you may be subject to paying an "exit tax" if you revoke your US citizenship. But this is dependent on your finances of course.

 

Not a Murrican :)

GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."
 

Yeah, no more. I'm looking at getting out of it now.

GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."
 

Would probably echo Germany then, seems liveable and holds political weight. Would not recommend South American or Eastern European countries.

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i've heard Paraguay it's pretty easy to buy citizenship (was $10k last i heard a few years ago) + requires relatively minimal time in the country compared to some of the other options, but things may have changed, and not sure what this type of citizenship grants you, but may be worth looking into. obviously you dont want to spend time in Paraguay, but would grant access to most or all of S.America

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I'm actually considering Paraguay. I think it's only $3k, and apparently you don't need to be there.

As for your second point, is there a Schengen equivalent in the Mercosur countries? I mean, Visa-free access?

And lithium mining in Argentina might be lucrative too, so might consider moving to Buenos Aires :P

GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."
 

yes that's the greatest value of the Paraguayan citizenship is the mercosur flexibility, all or most countries in S.America are covered in it and it allows you access to live in any of the countries included with similar (or the same) rights/privileges as a local

i dont know anyone that actually obtained one but the topic came up often. I think Colombia was a more popular option. more difficult but much more desirable to live. not too sure of the details.

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Singapore maybe, but Hong Kong isn't the kind of place you can retire with your kids.

GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."
 

I'm a dual citizen of a LatAm country where the very top income tax level is 33%, relatively low capital gains taxes, and not much estate tax. If im ever rich enough then #in

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Canada, has the support of the most powerful nation in the world while being seen as a goody two shoes by the rest of the world. Canadians can visit virtually any country in the world and foreign people treat you better.

I was born in Canada, live in America (and have Indian parents) and when going abroad, am treated far better when I tell people I am Canadian or even Canadian-American than simply American.

 

Canada seems a reasonable option. I'll equate it to Germany I guess.

GoldenCinderblock: "I keep spending all my money on exotic fish so my armor sucks. Is it possible to romance multiple females? I got with the blue chick so far but I am also interested in the electronic chick and the face mask chick."
 

One thing you might want to know about Canada is how boring it is with its cold weathers. Unless you move to Vancouver and burn some cash there

 

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