Biggest difference between target and non target kids?
Would love to hear what the biggest difference is between these two cohorts as far as how they perform during internships.
Which of the two is more enjoyable to be around?
TIA
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Which one do you think lmao
No clue that's why I ask
Would you rather have some shitty gold crusted salmon or a Costco hotdog?
Costco hotdogs slap so I'm going with that.
Still doesn't exactly answer my question as to what the differences between target and non target kids is.
Students who come from top schools got in by working hard and going through the typical path. Tend to be more relaxed and confident
Students from lesser known schools who got into IB had to grind much more to get the same internship and often feel the need to prove they’re worthy of being in the same spot in their first analyst year from what I’ve noticed. They were often top of their class and have incredible work ethic
this is true for IB. but the average non-target is a massive retard, coming for a non-target UG
A lot of target school retards in this thread then , who lack the reading comprehension to understand what OP was asking.
This isn't a average target school vs non-target school comp, but instead looking at the difference between those who both broke in. Far different.
You don’t really notice or think of what school anyone went to after a few months in the job - you just see people for who they are, their ability and work ethic
It doesn’t really matter if you can get into a good company. Some of the non-targets had late starts and didn’t put out until later in life.
It’s not where you start; it’s where you finish.
If we’re being candid, some of the non-targets in our last SA class came off very aggressive and was obvious they had a chip on the shoulder. Not a bad thing overall, but we had to pull 2 guys aside for being rude to their fellow SA cohort, saying problematic things about some of the female SAs and how they got their offer, and just general demeanor.
Target kids from schools we normally take from were enjoyable and picked things up quickly. Generally were able to reason around issues and figure out new concepts quicker.
This is all anecdotal obviously, but generally prefer Target kids. Work quality is about the same between the two cohorts out of the gate, but I prefer working alongside the Target undergrads more.
Crediting.
The top 5% or so kids at a non-target school are going to be the same or as good as most kids from a target school, with maybe more work ethic but not always.
The far biggest difference is background IMO. Target school kids in this scenario are far more likely to come from an intact upper middle class family, possibly private schooled entire lives, have one or both parents with high calibre / executive level jobs so they have a greater sense of knowledge/comfort and sometimes entitlement when it comes to their ambitions.
Non target is likely a driven kid from a middle class / public school type background whose parents work typical average jobs.
The subtle difference in these upbringings is going to lead to more significant results than looking at quality of school they went to or how intelligent either are IMO
The better upbringing brings more polish, social skills, and a wider network for business development later on. A lot of the grinders, even if harder working and more intelligent, lack the broader perspective that furthers a career past the junior levels. Not saying this is fair or desirable, only observation.
Dont disagree at all. This is something you kind of struggle with growing up and first interacting with these kids, trying to understand why they are so much better than you, driven, polished, etc.
But their families almost always were the main reason for that development. Which isnt a bad thing at all, they did a great job raising them, but its hard to 'fake it til you make it' compared to the kid that was in select lacrosse camps all his adolesence, private schooled, traveled abroad annually on family trips, taught a good work ethic, pushed to positions in youth groups that taught leadership & social skills, etc. etc. You can be one of the brightest and hardest working kids at North Texas U or some other shit school but man those hurdles are not only hard to overcome but hard to even recognize until well into adulthood
Not a bitch post either though. Because even if you are average state school U kid, millions have it worse than you and would die to be in your spot. All you can do is control what you can control.
5% seems a bit generous but regarding background, that's not true. Look at the demographic reports for these schools. 70% of the undergraduate population is on need-based financial aid. I'd imagine the average background of a non-target vs. target school will be that same middle class / public school you mentioned. Honestly, the median background of a target school might actually be worse considering all their DEI initiatives within the admissions process.
Maybe my sample size is skewed towards people who work corporate roles. Almost everyone I know who went to a Northwester, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Yale, Harvard type background came from wealthy families. In fact I cant think of a single exception.
If you compare the average backgrounds of a target school to a TRUE non-target (think, directional state U) , I assure you they are not remotely the same
Lots of non targets could not afford to go to target schools.
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