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Arroz con PolloWe already have too many people, and the majority of babies who are aborted would have grown up to be bums anyways. 

This is a terrible argument. You can’t just kill unborn babies because you assume they will be bums. 

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Subject: “Books which shifted your view.”

Content: “Books which shifted your view 180 degrees.”

They are not the same. I’ve had books that shifted my view, but not 180 degrees.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

Topic: What the content will be about. Contet: The final idea which one wants to share (more detailed than the topic).

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Topic: What the content will be about. Contet: The final idea which one wants to share (more detailed than the topic).

Anyway, no big deal, thx for the comment.

Your content is 180 degrees from your subject. I’m sure your ability to articulate ideas in real life is fragmented as well.

Anyway, no big deal, thx for the comment. ;)

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How did your view change 180 degrees?

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Still no one has claimed a 180 degree shift in thinking which is as RARE as thinking black is white. 

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

I feel like we have this type of thread so often, it should be pinned. Personally, general writings of Stoicism (Letters of a Stoic, Meditations, etc.) and some religious writings (The Cloud of Unknowing). Taleb's writings are great too.

Edit: there are a couple books that actually did open my eyes a lot to the built environment: The Death and Life of Great American Cities by Jane Jacobs and Strong Towns by Charles Marohn. The first's excerpts are usually read in urban planning classes, but it's an interesting book about the human perspective of urban design (a bit dated but most of it still holds true and it does provoke a lot of questions and discussion). Strong Towns is focused on more productive use of real estate and changing urban design so that it's both more human-focused and economically productive.

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the one book that shifted my belief 180 degrees was a book on God I read when I was 14 and I cannot recall anything else about the description (The title was "God?") and given the title it's near impossible to find on amazon but what it did was stop my atheism. to be sure, I'm not a church goer but the book was essentially a christian and an atheist scientist having a written debate on the existence of God and the scientist's arguments were so flimsy that it caused me to become less attached to my beliefs.

I will say taleb, stoicism, 7 habits, etc have all been monumentally influential on my life but I cannot say those were 180 degree shifts

 

So... one book that is so poorly received it basically isn't in print anymore is your basis for theism?

All of your beliefs and choices are your own, of course, but that's the kind of flimsy justifications that atheists and agnostics laugh about.  As far as you're trying to "rationalize" your faith, that isn't a rationalization at all.  It's being incredibly selective in the "evidence" you choose.

Also, atheism isn't a belief.  It's a lack of belief, and concurrently a commitment to an evidentiary worldview.  I know that's pedantic, but I feel the need to push back on it, because it's what gives theocrats of all stripes the ammunition to draw equivalence between their barbaric Bronze Age nonsense with modern ethics and philosophy.

 

"commitment to an evidentiary worldview".....unless you find disagreement with the evidence.  See our abortion discussion above. Are you really commited to an evidentiary worldview or do you reject evidence and science when it doesn't fit your worldview?

 

To some of the above points, my view likely hasn't been shifted 180 degrees on anything but several books have had an impact on me, so here you go:

  • The Rational Optimist (Matt Ridley) - great take on how things are better in the world than they have ever been. Each time I start to complain about something or get annoyed with the world, I think about this book and how I am measurably better off than people before me. Changed my perspective on things I guess
  • The Fountainhead (Ayn Rand) - Helped me escape a lot of concerns about fitting in and what not. Kind of pushed me to determine what I want to do in life and who I want to be, then pursue it without worrying about judgement from others. So, it changed my view on the opinion of others
  •  Principles (Ray Dalio) - I wouldn't say this shifted my view, but a lot of small items that helped me tweak my view on things
 

Surprised that no one has mentioned Atomic Habits by James Clear yet. I think a lot of the time it gets overplayed and has unfortunately been construed to weird viewpoints (it's getting that 'mainstream decline' issue), but it's truly an amazing book. Get 1% better every day. That's the motto, and while it's not as easy as it sounds, striving for 1% every single day will undoubtedly make you a better person. 

“Every action is a vote for the person you wish to become.” ~James Clear

Truly a great read. If you don't have the time to sit down and read the full book, consider checking out him speaking on the subject below. speaks very eloquently and efficiently, and it's a great read. 

 
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interested, which papers?

It was many, many years ago so I forget.  I'll try and remember if I have a free moment and see if I can find and link them.

Starting with the official Senate Report on Pre-War Intelligence is always a good idea.

https://web.archive.org/web/20071225161422/http://www.gpoaccess.gov/ser…

One of it's findings was that while they found no meaningful presence of WMDs or the current ability to produce them, investigators concluded that Saddam Hussein was absolutely going to restart production of WMDs the moment sanctions ended.  Which were only maintained by force of arms.  In other words, we were in a forever war there whether we liked it or not, right from the word "go".

 

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