ChatGPT knows everything
If you go onto ChatGPT and ask it to teach you about all the drivers for various businesses, industry trends, key metrics, valuations, etc it will provide excellent synopses - all while likely withholding infinite information that it hasn't put on screen.
I can't help but think, if these AI models have access to every detail that an industry expert would have access to, then finding alpha in the market will become nearly impossible because "specialization" will cease to exist. If what sets you apart as an investor is how much you know about an industry, then how could you possibly beat a computer that knows all there is to know?
For simple topics or "teach me about X" for sure... but AI has lost hype in the workplace because it makes SO MANY errors. Most people in my firm hardly use AI because you have to fact check it meticulously and that takes more time than finding it yourself.
Can it automate simple tasks - sure. I think at the current level, it is not there yet to replace anyone except maybe call center employees.
I think you are using it wrong - it is not a Wikipedia/Google that you search for straight facts. I use it more as a problem solving sparring partner ... this is not about being right/wrong, but it basically is steroids for my thinking. It suggests me potential hypothesis to look into, drills down market driver trees, etc.
And I don't use it as "can you give me this" and then I Strg + C / Strg + V. I challenge it all the time and let my thoughts get challenged by the AI. For that it is really good.
And anyway .. what would be the comparator? Human intelligence? I problem solved similar questions with various people at MBB (up to the Oxbridge STEM PhD / Math Olympiad type of dudes/gals) and honestly it is not that people are never gullible of any mistakes/making wrong hypothesis/looking at the problem at the wrong way.
That's the art of prompting, it can go from being a simple tool to significantly improving your efficiency. Plus ChatGPT is usually better at qualitative tasks (writing emails, analyzing images) but I find Claude much more precise at math or coding, so you have to choose the right agent depending on the situation.
If you think ChatGPT knows everything you haven’t been fact checking it closely enough.
It’s also a matter of macro vs micro.
I find it very useful to structure thoughts, blueprint phase, high level industry validation. But the details really matter in complex asset environments. More importantly judgement calls.
Maybe it’s crazy fast desktop research is sufficient to give you a glipse of what a broad industry may be growing at or being disrupted by.
But in more opaque markets, there’s elements at a firm level that really make the difference: who’s talking to who at trade shows for B2B deals, hirings/firings that industry people know about way before journalists or even regulators, you know your product is a killer app because you’ve seen it in product demos, your middle management sucks and can’t manage a cash flow forecast. Business has an inherent bias towards secrecy where possible because that information is in itself an edge. That will create a limit on what the models can be trained on without deeper access into firm level information and therefore a limit to its threat to real world business.
Then of course there’s the issue of hallucination, although in my experience this is more of a nuisance than a fatal flaw. I recently wrote up a teaser with mostly internal input leaning on GPT for restructuring and copy editing. Only found one straight up hallucination (which was a very understandable one and in fact I feel like 1-2yr analysts make similar mistakes all the time.)
Tldr: won’t know everything. What that means for alpha in my opinion is a further deterioration in edge at public markets level (w/o questionable practices) but in PE I think it favors those closest to the metal (their operating assets) where desktop research ceases to be a meaningful driver of value creation.
I've found the best way to avoid hallucinations/mistakes (that aren't super niche & specific) is the next the models. e.g. take the output from GPT and feed it to Grok, then take that output and feed it to Gemini asking each to fact check through the other's work, streamline it where possible, and to add relevant insight/deeper analysis. It works wonders.
I know there will be tons of people flooding into this and will tell that it is all BS and just pulled together randomly ... but I also think that you are right.
I've ran numerous DD's and did hundreds of expert calls and these days, before I hop on the call, I always lay out the land with ChatGPT. I'm still baffled how it gets it about ~80% right and tells me a lot of the exact content that industry experts tell me.
Best of many examples is just competitive landscape: looked at a very niche pharma related business and problem-solved with ChatGPT the industry landscape. Grouped players into archetypes and drilled down what the key difference is. Then went in with a solid understanding into the expert call and validated most of it.
It is also very smart in modelling markets ... like that super-smart college friend that you always texted when you needed help on a problem. Again I use it more for sparring, but it got me started on so many market sizing driver trees (e.g., start with variables xyz, multiply by Y to arrive market size for X if you want to validate use following sources, here is also what you can experts to get certainty around it).
let's say you don't know shit about investing, and GPT tells you that it would be a good idea to allocate $1m in X stock. Will you be ready to put all of this or you'll be somehow hesitant? What if it missed some detail like the usual "oh, yes, you're right... this is the updated answer considering ABC" or what if it misses another perspective that must be considered for a specific industry - "based on the updated input for this situation, investing in C would be more appropiate as the initial stock may cause several issues".
Also, an example maybe more in line with what you're trying to say is that Renaissance also uses the same data that each one of us has access since decades. We could replicate 100% the entire infrastructure of Renaissance: PhDs, terminals, data, STEM guys, etc. Will we deliver the same "alpha" as them? Probably not. Because everyone has access to the same chart/the same information, but making out something of all this complex system is the hard part/the "brain" power, which very few can
At first you may think, well, this still means that the average investors will be wiped out, but you can't see the blind spots/what's missing/exercise judgement on what GPT is vomiting back to you. So you need still someone who has a strong grasp of finance to challenge whatever AI is delivering, and the strongest his grasp of finance, the better will be his final idea made with AI. It's a tool at the end of the day which follows the same idea of weak inputs = weak results.
And realistically, I can also imagine a future where you have a comparison on AI portfolios who may have 100% the same access to information/etc. but are still delivering different results, which again will prove that it's not the information that leads to alpha, is what you do with that information/how you interpret it/how you invest based on it, which again will leave plenty of room for alpha if you truly have great ideas
The question is what is your comparator? I would not put 1MN on a stock just purely based on diversification.
However, I am truly convinced that if I were to run a empirical study that stocks picked by a thesis developed by AI would on average perform roughly the same than stocks picked by equity research analysts who poured thousands of hours into fundamental research.
Not sure why you hit on ChatGPT for getting things wrong when ER/HF are wrong consistenly.
the comparator is that an industry expert with AI will still outperform someone who is learning about an industry predominantly relying on AI because of those blind spots or general generalization biases thta makes AI miss more individual matters/exceptions.
I also think that if "dominating an industry" will become the floor because this can be done with AI,then becoming an "industry" expert will become something of looking at the 2nd/3rd degree consequences and try to see now how viable would those paths be and discuss like as if the immediate consequence o the stock already happened (which is what nowadays is often analyzed) - which sure, maybe also could be done with AI, but will be still complex for someone who lacks the experience, which leaves us more time to run other analysis and do plenty of other things to get a more in depth view (and you can always go much more in depth in your analysis, but it's a matter of trade-off between costs vs reward of doing it)
Similar to how decades ago doing a DDM or EPS analysis on a stock was already considered enough for alpha (Graham) vs. the full analysis we do nowadays on financials just because our data/systems/technicals become more advanced but also because it's way easier to get the EPS in Factset vs. having to find the financials of a company in newspapers.
So when we take care of plenty of those, we can think about way more things to analyze. Maybe analyzing investments life Buffett/Griffin will be the norm on how reliable we'll become with AI, so the new investors will be the ones going 2/3 levels above the standard. Who knows.
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