Convertible Preferred Shares and Convertible Debt Question

Why is it so hard to find the damn conversion ratio or conversion price when calculating FDSO and Convertible Debt / Convertible Preferred Shares are involved? It's almost always never in the 10-K / 10-Q.

Is there an easier way of going about finding this? Please, I'm all ears. I always dread this when calculating FDSO.

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Finding the conversion ratio or conversion price for Convertible Preferred Shares or Convertible Debt can indeed be a pain, and you're not alone in dreading it. Based on the most helpful WSO content, here’s why it’s tricky and how you can make it easier:

Why It’s Hard to Find:

  1. Buried in Footnotes: These details are often tucked away in the footnotes of the 10-K or 10-Q, specifically in sections discussing equity-linked securities or convertible instruments. Companies don’t always make it easy to locate.
  2. Legal Jargon: The terms like "conversion ratio" or "conversion price" might not be explicitly labeled. Instead, they could be described in legal or financial terms, making it harder to spot.
  3. Variability in Reporting: Not all companies follow the same format or level of detail in their filings, so the information might be inconsistently presented.

Easier Ways to Find It:

  1. Focus on the Indenture or Preferred Stock Agreement: As noted in the WSO DCF Modeling Course, the liquidation value and conversion ratio are often written in the preferred stock agreement or indenture. These are typically referenced in the footnotes of the financial statements.
  2. Search for Keywords: Use CTRL+F (or CMD+F on Mac) to search for terms like "conversion ratio," "conversion price," "convertible," or "dilutive securities" in the 10-K or 10-Q. This can save you from manually combing through the document.
  3. Look for Fully Diluted Shares Outstanding (FDSO) Details: Companies often provide a breakdown of FDSO calculations in the footnotes. This section might include the conversion ratio or price indirectly by showing how many shares are added from convertible securities.
  4. Use Analyst Reports: If you have access to equity research reports, analysts often summarize these details, saving you the hassle of digging through filings.
  5. Company IR Teams: If all else fails, reach out to the company’s Investor Relations team. They can often clarify or point you to the right section of the filings.

Pro Tip:

When calculating FDSO, always ensure you’re accounting for in-the-money securities only. As highlighted in the WSO DCF Modeling Course, the conversion price is key to determining whether a security is dilutive or anti-dilutive. If the conversion price is below the current share price, the security is in-the-money and should be included in FDSO.

By streamlining your approach and knowing where to look, you can save time and reduce the frustration of hunting for these details.

Sources: DCF Modeling Course ~ Pre-training text.pdf

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