Family Life in Banking
My biggest fear with going into banking and high finance in general is family life. While it won’t be an issue until later on in my career, is it genuinely possible to have a family and work in high finance. Some of my fondest childhood memories were going out in the backyard and kicking the soccer ball around or playing baseball with my dad. I really want to do that with my kids too one day and I just don’t know if that’s possible in finance. I understand it might be possible with corp dev potentially?
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In summary, while maintaining a family life in high finance is challenging, it is not impossible. It requires careful planning, prioritization, and sometimes transitioning to roles that offer better work-life balance.
Sources: banker career/lifestyle....not all that great? worth it?, Life after Investment Banking, part 2, Who wants a better life? I want to help., Who wants a better life? I want to help., Do you guys actually enjoy your jobs?
Bro other peoples stories are not your future life. Especially with the way WLB is being valued today. Honestly find a shop that offers a culture that truly aligns with the lifestyle you want. There are plenty of family oriented shops (most likely not the BB or EB). You just gotta find them. You don’t got change your career off a hypothetical. But ofc if you don’t love the game go find something that brings you true satisfaction and joy. And those who truly care make the time no matter what.
There's a reason all the seniors in banking are divorced and their kids hate them.
Take this for what you will, but I have worked in banking for 3+ years for several MDs closely and these are the statistics:
MD1: Divorced, kids live with wife, generally high performer
MD 2: Divorced, estranged kids, generally high performer
MD 3: Married with young kids, below average performer
MD 4: Divorced, estranged kids, average performer
MD 5: Married with high school aged kids, below average performer
Correlation does not imply causation, but in my experience, all the high performing MDs I have worked with have strained family lives. It’s sort a of a vicious cycle because then those guys don’t give a shit about anyone else’s personal life, consequently lol.
Does this imply that the underperforming MD's likely to be fired within next 3-5yrs?
First Boss. His name was Doug. I'm an entry level analyst trying to get this guy to open up on the walk to lunch. He's so stressed.
"Hey Doug, so how are your kids doing?" "To be honest Michael, I haven't seen a lot of my kids."
He was an alcoholic. I am too. There's a lot of people who want to go hard in every part of their lives, including drinking. Three years sober baby!
Next Boss:
Her kids were grown and she showed up to the office at 10AM and left at 4:30PM. She was a terror to be around because of her short hours. She was eventually fired and escorted out with a box by security. Thanks for 35 years.
Next Boss:
Two of his subordinates jumped him and he wouldn't shut up about it. Literally talked about these people for 30 minutes during the interview. After that, he was determined to never let it happen again so he held my career down. A hole through and through. Covered it up through the Baptist Church and volunteering. Never met someone so different in front of other people than they were in the office. Dude was the definition of two faced. He arrived to the office at 6:30...sometimes 6:00 and left at 6:00/7:00. Everyday.
My Last Boss:
Took his wife from Denver to live in Lubbock TX of all places. The office was located in Denver and Houston and the group head decided to manage everyone by himself in the middle of nowhere in North Texas. Bought his wife a house and while he was away on a trip, the basement completely molded. He then rented a house so his wife wouldn't leave him. This guy, let's call him John because that's his name, is paying for a house in Denver he can't sell (at least not for the $million+ he wants for it), a house in Lubbock his wife refuses to live in and a bummer house he's renting. Not sure how that situation is working out at the moment because I was laid off.
These people were not happy with their careers, with exception to John. Mostly because he didn't come from a finance background and lucked into the gig altogether. There was no choice to question for him. Everyone else thought they should be doing something more. No one gets rich. Everyone just reaches new levels of relative poverty. Bosses #1 and #2 both told me to get out of finance and do something else. I'm telling you that now.
So if your asking if there's "a way," the answer is absolutely not. Not in an area of finance that is competitive because there'll always be someone else willing to do it, at least until they figure out it's an unrewarding career.
My friend is one of the top IBers in the world and has a wife and kids and a seemingly perfect life. But, you never know what goes on behind closed doors.
Isaiah's friends with Jim Donovan?
I'll tell you what my MD told me: you can't have it all.
As cliche as it is, find out what makes you happy. Being spectacular at work? Awesome. Having a spectacular family life? Great.
There's no correct answer and you'll be surprised about the amount of people in our industry who do feel good from being high performers. Family life isn't the end all be all for some people.
Other way I'd word this -- you can have it all, just not at the same time
That's another good way to word it.
Honestly, I feel like this forum is heavily bent on how a good family life is the true source of happiness but have to remember that life is not a Hallmark movie
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