I don’t want to work alongside people who use drugs

How prevalent is drug usage in the investment banking industry and the overall finance industry? I personally prefer to work with people who don’t ever use drugs, and I was wondering if this is feasible.

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I don't, but I have no problem working with people who do.

There are two types really.

People that do drugs and people that have problems with drugs.

Usually weed and coke are things that most can handle. If you're doing meth or crack, you probably have problems with drugs.

 

So you're against the entire pharmaceutical industry (which includes medical cannabis)?

Vivanse and ritalin are basically cocaine. You're obviously against recreational cannabis, yes?

You sound like a total buzzkill at parties.

 

I think you’re likely to find functioning drug addicts/alcoholics in any industry (and all throughout college too). An expected higher concentration of them are likely to work in investment banking.

As far as you’re concerned— nobody is gonna be doing lines in your cubicle, so whatever happens beyond that is out of your hands.

 

The fact the bonuses this year will be less than enough to buy a 8 ball should tell you something.

 

I think you’ll find most workplaces have at least someone who does weed or something once in a while and honestly that’s okay. People will never force you to so drugs/drink if you’re not okay with it.

I mean, I wouldn’t want to work in place where there’s cocaine seeping through the ceilings or heroin needles in the bathroom, but I think you’ll find that most jobs In civilised society don’t have that work perk.

If you’re firm on literally 0 drugs, there’s always mosques/churches.

 

Serious note; hardly anyone uses drugs at work. The perception that bankers do them regularly at work is completely over-hyped by movies of the good old days.

For real though, no one will force it upon you and if you really care that much about what people do in their own time then perhaps you shouldn't work in any team environment at all, let alone finance.

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I have seen boxing matches with less brutal beatdowns. I have to say OP seems overly concerned with future colleagues’ private behavior. I just wondered if OP was offered drugs by some friend in college or took the movies of Wall Street wild scenes too seriously.

To OP: Many people in finance industry, myself included, work under lots of pressure. Some, as they get older, are on prescription drugs to deal with anxiety or other illness. I assume that is not what you had in mind. As several have pointed out: what people do in their private lives don’t affect work performance and should not be a concern. Best to relax, if you want to be a good team player.

On a related topic: In some low income, low economic development areas, drug use is alarmingly pervasive, to the extent it is hard to find quality labor supply. Truly a sad situation. .

 

This chick has been on an anti-drug campaign across multiple threads akin to an SJW who rails against those who believe there aren't 63 genders. Get a fucking life OP. No one gives a fuck if you don't want to work with people who do drugs. I will rail lines if I choose to, whether or not your non-binary ass is against it and irregardless of the 6th grade presentation we all got where they told us "all drugs are bad, don't do drugs kids"

 

My first day as an intern one of the MDs in my group called me into his office and said if I didn't rip a line right then and there that I wouldn't be getting a return offer. So I pretended I had to sneeze and achooed all over the desk, so the pre-cut line scattered all across the room before settling into the tastefully designed carpet of his non-corner office. He was fine with it because in a pre-COVID world, people were less concerned about the spread of germs and also he was a chill dude in general.

I acted super apologetic and he was like "don't worry man, shit happens" and was getting ready to break out a second line (obviously that line he had prepped for me wasn't all that he had on with him) but luckily for me, a blue chip client called asking us to swap out all the colors in a deck from baby sky blue to light robin eggshell blue (I still remember the RGB codes to this day (from 159 214 239 to 169 200 240).

Now to put it into perspective, this client was a big deal for my group - like the success fee had the potential to be a solid 5 figures for the firm, so as you can understand why the color changing exercise had to be prioritized. I just acted like I had very bad allergies anytime somebody tried to get me to go "skiing" with them and I guess nobody caught on, and I was able to secure an offer even before the official end of my internship (also maybe because I was banging my super hot VP who was having marital issues at the time - they're ok now after I introduced them to my dad who is the #4 rated marriage counselor on Yelp in the Tri-State area). So I guess the moral of that story is drugs really are not a big deal in the industry and nothing to be concerned about as long as you are creative and demonstrate perseverance - both traits of top bucket analysts, I might add.

Now, things have changed since then because after my 5th all nighter in a row (on day 420 of my full time stint as an analyst) I was starting to nod off in the middle of client meetings and that was seriously starting to affect my reputation as a rockstar analyst in the group, so I bit the bullet and drank caffeine for the first time in my life. What they say about gateway drugs is true, and I quickly expanded my drug usage beyond caffeine to other stimulants including Adderall, alcohol (I mixed with Red Bull exclusively or bought old school Four Lokos in bulk on eBay which is why I am counting this as a stimulant), Vyvanse, and of course, cocaine.

I think the second moral of the story is that it wasn't anybody else's fault that I did these drugs - I'm just weak and took the easy way out (side note: only mentally - I was physically imposing because of all the crunches and pushups I did in between turns and I was even able to do no handed pushups which is no easy task, let me tell you). Now maybe you are stronger than I am and will be able to power through your analyst years on a substance free existence (I still don't touch the devil's lettuce though, so I guess that is a win), but in the end, nobody forced me to shove stimulants in my body through every orifice imaginable. I think I am still the same bright eyed, bushy tailed kid that I was on my first day as an intern at heart, with the only difference that now I need less sleep and have maximized my efficiency to 169% of my original state.

You'll find that most people in life will have similar life origin stories such as mine - as a wizened veteran of the industry, all I can say is to keep an open mind, and you never know how the cookie that is life crumbles.

 

I will only work with people on drugs! I will let you in on a secret, Investment Bankers, Hedge fund Coo's, Broker/Dealers, and private equity owners are some of the most insecure and boring mother fuckers I have ever met. Enjoy your careers in making loads of money yet contributing nothing to the world. On your dying day remember to ask yourselves; "will the world even notice if I were here at all?"

 

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