Hi guys
Am new to the site. Been seeing a lot of ex-mil bashing on this site. I served compulsory service at home for a few years, and I know a lot of idiots who are in that sector.
But generally if I hear someone did tours or was in their country's forces, they seem to get more respect from me. I am also more comfortable trusting them.
Knowing that they passed certain requirements in their forces gives me more faith that they have some standard as to what people expect of them, and they also seem to know how to respect authority.
If you guys saw Band of Brothers and that officer that took field command of the main unit toward the end of the series, and froze on the field, I believe that kind of tool is a very small proportion of the armed forces, so they are definitely exceptions to the rule. Hence my impression of military personnel on average is generally better than non-service folks. (Speirs was my favourite character)
Having travelled a bit, I also am more comfortable with being around people that know how to react to terrorist threats in airports. I know that military folks have a basic background (even the desk people have to pass where I'm from) on how to drop into combat. And that's definitely a comforting feeling. Hence it's from small things like these that I feel makes it easier to talk and work with these folks.
Do you guys feel the same if you've served or haven't?
Please link me to this military bashing on this site. Im quiet surprised because this site is one of the most respectful when it comes to military candidates.
Yeah, I haven't seen any bashing myself either. As far as trusting them more than non goes, i think it's about as ridiculous as a white guy saying he trusts another white guy more or an asian guy saying he trusts other asian guys more. Should a Columbia guy trust a Columbia guy more than a Wharton guy too? No disrespect meant to armed forces whatsoever (full disclosure, I've had 2 friends die in Iraq), but people are going to be people regardless of whether or not they "trained" or "studied" somewhere. I see how you can feel that way as people are usually more comfortable amongst "their own".
I have never seen the show, so I'm not sure if that has any relevance on my opinion, but I don't necessarily believe that you should focus so much on how you think someone will react in a terrorist situation. You have to judge the character of the person, and there are going to be bad military folks and bad non-military folks. There will also be good/better of both in every respect. It seems like you're falling into the "like me" trap. It's normal, however you should try to focus on the person rather than what they may rep. Sorry if I misunderstood what you were getting at, but I took it as such.
It's a club like anything else--and like any club there are cool guys and douche bags.
^^^this. I've had a number of friends do military service. Three enlisted in the Marine Corps and they all said the same thing: you might as well be in prison (take that with a grain of salt, or a bag). It's a pretty even split on the good apples and pieces of shit. Didn't hear much bad about the enlisted in other services.
Thanks for the monkey shit. I was just posing a conversational question to get your opinions.
There's not much bashing as a whole, my mistake. http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/columbia-spits-on-wounded-iraqi-v… I guess I just felt pretty strongly about some of the anti-military sentiment in that thread.
I guess my impression is formed because I have come across a smaller proportion of d-bags to good people.
True, I know a root is that I'm more comfortable with people that share the similar experience.
Your parallel on serving in the forces to what race someone belongs to is interesting. I mean, if you have two groups of people, and you have had more positive experiences with a certain group of people, a natural impression is that you prefer that group of people. That's where I'm coming from. I acknowledge not all mil people are the same, that is why I was asking for an opinion.
I didn't give a blanket statement like "all mil people are trustworthy" like "all asians like to work hard." Moreover I meant "my opinion is mil people are more trustworthy" and my question was "what do you think". I apologise if that wasn't clear. Thanks for the response.
You're right that it's not a focal point, and shouldn't be. However, I intended to use that as an anecdote in general, and give an impression of how little things like that add up to form a more positive impression.
I understand that people feel more comfortable with people that share a common experience, I was asking if 2 groups of people (ex mil and non-mil) felt a certain way about working or talking to ex mil people.
I am more likely to trust them more, because of my experiences. I was curious as to other people's ideas.
That's fair enough, but when posting a controversial statement, just like making a trade, there's the potential reward of Silver Bananas and the potential failure of Monkey Shit. Weigh your options carefully haha
I ran across military guys who seem to have a big headedness thinking just because they went through few years of duty, they know more about real life, yet their actions and maturity are worse than 19 year old college kids. If it's a West Point or Academy grad who actually did some awesome stuff, I might trust him to some extent, but any general military men, not so much. I actually have worked with someone from Air Force Academy who shouldn't have had any jobs hah.
So you're basically saying that If a military personnel did not attend West Point or any other academy it's unlikely that he/she did anything "awesome" in the military? Check your statement because it doesn't make any sense.
Air Force Academy? What a bunch of jokers!
I should clarify, I am sure they did great in war situation, which is what they are trained/supposed to do in most cases. But I am not taking all military men as great candidate in normal business world over anyone else.
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