Questioning the grind

So there’s this girl I knew who was average at best with math and science during high school. Basically she ended up going to a target uni (got daddy money and contacts) but then suddenly become some CS prodigy. Now she’s quitting early to become a quant for some unnamed fund and is going to get 2 mil a year. Honestly questioning life after hearing that. How is it possible for people to suddenly change? I don’t even think it’s a matter of hidden skill or anything cuz they had nothing going for them. What makes these people different? Not sure what I’m supposed take away from this. Been aiming for IB but now it just looks like peanuts.

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Quant > HF > IB and PE

IB and PE is just a brutal grind. I don’t think it’s worth it tbh. Maybe for a few years but it’s no way to live. 

 

Based on the most insightful WSO threads, here's the deal: Success stories like the one you mentioned often seem baffling, but they usually boil down to a mix of opportunity, adaptability, and leveraging the right resources. Here's what might be at play:

  1. Access and Opportunity:

    • Coming from a privileged background ("daddy money and contacts") can open doors that others might not even know exist. Target schools, elite networks, and early exposure to high-value opportunities can fast-track someone's career, even if they weren't exceptional in high school.
  2. Adaptability and Focus:

    • People can change dramatically when they find a field that aligns with their interests or when they see a clear path to success. In the case of your acquaintance, she might have discovered a passion or knack for coding and quantitative work during university, which she then capitalized on. As noted in WSO threads, even students who start with no coding background can excel if they dedicate themselves to learning and building projects.
  3. Perception vs. Reality:

    • It's easy to assume someone "suddenly" became a prodigy, but often, there's a lot of unseen effort behind the scenes. For example, many successful quants spend countless hours on side projects, algo trading, or coding challenges to build their skills and prove their passion during interviews. As one WSO user shared, showcasing real-world problem-solving (even with imperfect models) can be a huge differentiator.
  4. The Quant Field's Appeal:

    • Quantitative finance is highly lucrative, and firms are willing to pay top dollar for talent. The technical skills required (coding, math, problem-solving) are in high demand, and those who can demonstrate competence—even without a PhD or years of experience—can secure high-paying roles. As highlighted in WSO discussions, undergrads with strong coding and math skills often outperform PhDs because they bring fresh perspectives and less arrogance.
  5. Takeaway for You:

    • Instead of comparing yourself to others, focus on what you can control. If you're aiming for IB but feel disillusioned, consider whether your goals align with your passions and strengths. If the quant world appeals to you, start building the necessary skills (coding, math, algo trading) and showcasing your passion through projects or internships. Remember, success in finance or tech isn't just about raw intelligence—it's about persistence, adaptability, and leveraging opportunities.

In short, people like her aren't necessarily "different"—they just found a way to align their resources, skills, and opportunities to achieve their goals. You can do the same by focusing on your own path and making strategic moves.

Sources: So you want to be a Quant?, https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/job-search/why-prestige-really-matters?customgpt=1, Is Traditional Finance Dead?, Centerview vs. Jane Street vs. Meta, Deciding on quantitive majors/career path?

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Don't take anything away from this, it's one anecdote from a girl who sounds like has a leg up. And I bet this story is largely incorrect. HFs aren't hiring quants without college degrees for 2m. Full stop; just isn't happening.

 

really?

the highest i’ve heard of is at HRT around 600-700

at funds i think GQS u can push past half a mil if u have other offers.

never heard of anyone touching a mil. altho ig one off cases can happen 

 

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