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It is a strong video - I think he was pondering the strengths of both Tech and Finance.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 
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I'm in tech/PO management and an ex/programmer and disagree.  Many things are the same with unreasonable hours, deadlines, clients, then also late night support calls, calls on vacation, etc....but what I'm tired of is sitting in another design/architecture session debating the merits of different databases, streaming engines, language choice, etc.... then I go meet with sales and marketing while they say we just signed another client, and they need xyz customized, and the architecture does not handle that do do hitting a date for another client customization a year ago to get a sale.

As I posted previously, if I would do it again I would be the finance/cfo guy in a tech company. They meet the $$ guys as part of their business, when you've got a ipo/sale they come out great, and they always seem to land on their feet when the company goes south due to their connections they've cultivated with partners/investors. I've also almost never see them online at 1 am for an emergency call or working all weekend for a large update or migration.

 
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I'm in tech/PO management and an ex/programmer and disagree.  Many things are the same with unreasonable hours, deadlines, clients, then also late night support calls, calls on vacation, etc....but what I'm tired of is sitting in another design/architecture session debating the merits of different databases, streaming engines, language choice, etc.... then I go meet with sales and marketing while they say we just signed another client, and they need xyz customized, and the architecture does not handle that do do hitting a date for another client customization a year ago to get a sale.

As I posted previously, if I would do it again I would be the finance/cfo guy in a tech company. They meet the $$ guys as part of their business, when you've got a ipo/sale they come out great, and they always seem to land on their feet when the company goes south due to their connections they've cultivated with partners/investors. I've also almost never see them online at 1 am for an emergency call or working all weekend for a large update or migration.

Fintech consultant. Can confirm and agree with this and it hits too hard to home. So many stories of the 1AM+ emergency phone calls you have to be available for during certain periods with the C-suite on both sides and/or "their team" literally on the other side of the world.

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Interesting perspective. I'm a tech lead currently and switch between the Product Engineering team and SRE Platform Team- I can see what you're saying regarding deadlines and unreasonable hours. I actually enjoy architecture design discussions, but I do hate some aspects of API contract agreements (and lack of domain modeling understanding). I do actually enjoy learning about Corporate Finance as well.

Interesting perspective about finance people doing well regardless of the situation, seems very reasonable (just haven't seen things go belly up myself). Also migrations suck.

What's your reasoning for jumping to the PO side from being a SWE? I'm considering a move to Product myself

“The three most harmful addictions are heroin, carbohydrates, and a monthly salary.” - Nassim Taleb
 

My path was swe >> swe team lead >> tech project management >> tech management >> PO. I've flipped between tech management and PO at different companies.

Two reason for the initial move to PO

1)  I needed to train some POs in how to work with tech teams and it was easier as a PO as we had embedded POs in the product dev team. 

2) I wanted to influence the product direction more and really try the role out knowing I could always move back to a technical role. I enjoyed it as gave me a new perspective as to what people experience with client support/sales support. Tried to walk in their shoes for a while.

Don't know how your company operates you could always shadow a PO in their calls with customers/focus groups/sales depending on if your B2B or B2C. 

Also, don't know how many years in you have, but getting that MBA and coming back into a tech company is something I wished I would have made happen. Having the tech background then having MBA with finance classes would have been a good fit for me and I feel open up doors. Of course, a lot depends on the school you get into.

 

How can you feel like an alpha after you realize all you did was code 2 lines to fix some stupid fb filter for the day? I’m sure you make good money but the prestige isn’t there. 

 

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