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Haha I went to Beijing through Columbia University (study abroad) and one of my friends from that program invited me to his wedding in Toronto. 

First he messaged me and asked if I wanted to come and after I said yes, I got a +1 wedding invitation in the fanciest envelope and letter that I have ever seen. I asked this hot chick I knew in Toronto if she wanted to go and she said yes immediately.

The wedding was a performance and an event of culinary excellence. They had different performers including Brazilian dancers with big feathers and the food could compete with Jean Georges. My date said it was one of the best times of her life. 

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 
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I can't say mine, right? Feel like that'd be biased. 

In that case, I'd have to go with my best friend's wedding which I was a part of back in 2019 or so... Istanbul, Turkey. One of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. He and his now-wife are Muslim, albeit a little 'Western Muslim', if that's a thing. They still take their religion very seriously, albeit dislike the traditional sense of Islam - to quote him, he said something to the effect of if I save an orphanage from burning down, but then take a shot of whiskey afterward, am I going to hell? Seems that this isn't really even here. Paraphrasing, of course, but ya get the point. 

Since the wedding was in Turkey, the 'western' part was scaled back a fair bit - quite traditional, with lots of contemporary dress, lack of alcohol served, and very religiously oriented. If you asked me if that was what I considered a 'fun wedding', I would have probably assumed you were calling me a boring person. How wrong I was - can't tell you all how much I enjoyed being there. I'm not really religious at all - consider myself an agnostic (won't rule anything out, yet!), but that didn't matter to a single person in that room. The kindness I experienced there was ridiculous, so many people with different backgrounds, cultures, and languages, blended in together. I didn't even mind that it was a five-hour-plus ceremony, mostly spoken in a language that I didn't understand. It was just something I'd never been to before, and I'm really glad I got to have an experience like that. 

Oh, and... later that night, when all of my friend's extended boomer family had gone to sleep... we all hit up the liquor store. Had to slip the west in, just a little!

 

My wedding. Almost a million bucks to host 600 people in the best city on earth. I only contributed 150k to the weekend and got to free roll the rest of the costs.

PM if you want I love talking about it. And I obviously can’t in real life since it was awhile ago and I would sound like a douche, but it really was awesome.

Just don’t want to post the details and get the associated hate.

 

Nah homie, I’m getting worn down by the jealous hate. After a cool detailed post, I’d just get a million hate PMs like I always do.

But it was a really cool weekend and was unforgettable.

Was nice to be able to host so many people right in the city and defray some of their hotel costs.

 

I'm afraid that if your "scientific reasons" are a hunt for your own wedding ideas (in which case, congratulations!), then I might not be able to provide that, but what I did experience as the "best" wedding was forced by pandemic circumstance. The wedding was limited to c. 20 or so people, but because of that, every little thing was special. Each guest (myself included) truly appreciated the opportunity to be there, and it actually felt like celebrating with the bride and groom (as opposed to most weddings where you might get 5 minutes pleasantries if you're lucky and catch them alone).

It felt quite intimate and special - but would I choose that for myself? Not really. Issue is that I selfishly want all my friends and family there, not a subset. The wedding should be about maximising the happiness for the couple, not the guests.

 

As long as there is open bar, good music, and at least a few good friends to hang with, its a recipe for a great wedding.  Bonus points for a quick ceremony.

Weddings in beautiful destinations usually feel "better" but its also kind of a pain in the ass to spend a bunch of time and money on travel as a guest.  Probably the "best" ones I've been to were the very expensive/luxurious destination weddings (been to two that had 4 days of events at famous European hotels and easily cost 7 figures) but also its kind of bizarre the hosts wanted to flex that hard / the bride is that much of a narcissist.

 

NYC. Ceremony was on a boat that went up and down the Hudson and the East. Ceremony was short and sweet. Reception was lit. Free booze (including liquor/shots). Got back to the dock a little after 11pm. Went to some underground hip-hop club with most of the wedding party. Talib Kweli just happened to be at this club celebrating his friend's birthday. He got up and did a couple of songs. It was lit. Took one of the hotter bridesmaids chicks back to my hotel. Was sort of lit. She was cool but had that shit locked down, so only got a bee-g. Brunch next day at 12 Chairs with most of the bridal party. It was lit. Got a bunch of pats on the back and high-fives because the boys assumed I sealed the deal (I didn't).

 

Not sure if I would necessarily consider it the "best wedding," but by far the best venue was Blenheim Palace. One of my cousins got married there. For those unfamiliar, Blenheim is an 18th century palace in England that is the ancestral seat of the Duke of Marlborough and rich with history (Winston Churchill was born inside the palace)

Luckily, no waiters / catering staff died under mysterious circumstances during my cousin's wedding...

 

I moved around a lot as a teenager, for college and for work, therefore I was invited to very different weddings:

A beautiful wedding of a colleague in Hong Kong. The wedding theme was a combination of Western & Eastern culture (mixed couple) and it was just... amazing.
The Peninsula was the location and I had never seen anything like it before, perfect menu, views, atmosphere and people.

 

Depends on the type of wedding. As mentioned above, some weddings can be big, some can be small intimate. 

Typically, in my opinion, what makes a good wedding vs a mid or bad wedding is having the "juice". The hard think about the juice is you know it when you see it but its hard to create. I've been to expensive weddings that felt a little flat and I've been to not as expensive weddings that were good. Think about it yourself, have you ever been somewhat randomly invited to a wedding, its kind of awkward when you get there and you're itching to leave. Flip that with a close friends wedding or one where you know a lot of people, way better. 

 
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I married my now wife Willa on a boat on the Hudson River. As I am the eldest son, it was quite an affair. Unfortunately, my dad died during the wedding on his way to Norway for an important business meeting which was tragic for me and my three half-siblings. While my siblings ended up leaving, we ultimately went on with the wedding and it was a beautiful and intimate ceremony. 

 

One thing I did for my wedding that I recommend to anyone as it doesn't conflict with anyone's individual 'wedding day' desires. 

Have it on a long weekend. This allows you to actually spend time with your guests instead of a quick chat during the blur of the actual wedding, you to get plenty of rest for your wedding day, and gives family plenty of face time ahead of the actual wedding.

For me, this looked like the following:

Wednesday/Thursday was family time (wineries, cooking, hikes, spending extra time with out of country family).

Friday we had our welcome event/party for family/wedding party - hit the bars afterwards.

Saturday morning was rehearsal. Saturday afternoon we told all guests that we will be at x bar from 1-3, y brewery from 3-4, and z brewery from 4-6PM and to come explore the city/share a drink with us (these three were all within walking distance of each other). We had ~90% turnout (~120) to this bar crawl and had time to greet and hangout with nearly all of our friends and family in one place. It is also so special to see friends from all walks of your life in one place meeting and getting to know each other. So many had things in common and I was finally able to make those introductions/connections. Many of them met up later that night for dinner/to hit the bars together and were fast friends by the wedding day which led to a lot of camaraderie during the reception. It also makes your duties on the wedding more flexible as normally after dinner you have to go from table to table to make sure you say hi to everyone when now you already spent half a day with almost all of them. Saturday night had nice dinner at 7 with just my wife at a restaurant and got an early night sleep for the wedding on Sunday. After all the rush of family and friends over the past few days, it is nice to have a quieter 1x1 time with your fiance to chat and reflect before your wedding day.

Sunday wedding.

Monday brunch with family. 

 

Without commenting on the best wedding I've been to (there are a few contenders), having been to 30+ now, here's what makes a great wedding: 

- "Vibe" of the couple: if the couple is treating the wedding like a big celebration (instead of some deadly serious, momentous event), and if the couple in general likes to party, it will almost always be a good wedding.  

- Length of ceremony: the shorter the better.  Not much kills a wedding like an hour long ceremony

- Quality of music: much more important than band vs DJ.  By quality I mean "shut up and play the hits" - music people know and will dance/sing to.  A common mistake is to let the parents control the music and end up with 2/3 70s jams 

- Ratio of olds/youngs:  You need enough young people to fill the dance floor and give the party energy.  Too many parents' friends will lead to a low energy wedding 

- Ease of access to bars - more important than quality of bar.  I've seen some bars that had amazing liquor/cocktails but it took 30 mins to get a drink.  

- Quality of hor d'oeuvres at the cocktail hour: 90% of sit-down wedding food sucks, the make or break of wedding food is the cocktail hour

There are other things that matter at the margin, but those are the big ones.  Get most of those right and you'll have a very fun wedding. 

 

Childhood friend's wedding. His wife was someone he met in college / fell in love with. Fairly traditional parents but both of their parents were okay with them living together after school. He comes from an upper middle class family and his wife comes from a fairly wealthy background (his family is worth probably $3-5 million including assets, her family is around $20 million). The families spent I believe ~$500K on a wedding. Very classy venues in a major city (think Chicago / NYC / LA). I'm very close to my childhood's friend family so it was great hanging out with familiar faces. Besides one awkward speech by a few relatives (people who either had one too many or were trying to be funny for 3-4 minutes but weren't), it was great. One of the funniest afterparties I've ever been to.

Both of them are humble and from my understanding, the reason why the wedding was so expensive was due to her parents wanting to do certain things they both really didn't have interest in (was supposed to be even more grandiose but they eventually compromised on what they ended up doing).

EDIT: Forgot to mention, I said ~$500K but this was with a lot of discounted deals due to COVID. Could easily have been $700-800K+. Good news is both are in careers where they can make that much back in a year or so pre-tax.

 

Wedding at the Plaza

https://www.womangettingmarried.com/the-plaza-hotel-wedding-venue/

The Plaza Hotel

by Lindsay Goldenberg Jones

768 5th Ave,
New York, NY 10019
212-759-3000
View their website

Average Base Cost: $118,000

Our average base cost for a Plaza Hotel wedding is calculated by figuring a 200-person guest list for a Saturday evening ceremony and reception using their food and beverage average listed below. Entertainment, flowers, additional decorations and rentals, transportation, and photography are not included. Price is rounded up to the nearest thousand. Gratuity and sales tax is included.

*Prices subject to change

How it breaks down:

Facility Rental Fee: There is a $12,000 rental fee for the Terrace Room OR Grand Ballroom.  The ceremony can be held in either room as well, but must be in the room you are renting.

What’s Included: Round tables, china, flatware, glassware, gold Chivari chairs, complimentary bridal suite for the night of the wedding, and a ‘Day-of’ Suite adjacent to the ballroom

 
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The Terrace Room

Vendors: You must use The Plaza for all Food/Beverage and their exclusive Sound & Lighting vendor, but you may bring in your choice of other vendors.

Need wedding planning help? Our wedding e-book will teach you everything you need to know!

Food/Beverage: You can expect to pay $400/pp plus tax and service for Saturdays, $350/pp for Fridays and $375/pp for Sundays.  There is a minimum of 125 guests for a Friday or Sunday and a 200 guest minimum for a Saturday. This includes:

  • White Glove Butler Passed Hors d’ Oeuvres
  • Three Cocktail Stations
  • Premium Open Bar
  • Three Course Plated Dinner with a Choice of Entrées
  • Wines & Champagne throughout Dinner
  • Wedding Cake provided by Ron Ben-Israel or Sylvia Weinstock
  • Plaza Signature Petit Fours
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The Grand Ballroom

More Stats:

Space Type: Inside

Size: 450 maximum with dinner and dancing

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The Grand Ballroom

Bridal Suite: Yes (complimentary)

Parking: Yes, there is valet parking in front of the hotel available for $65 per car

How Will Grandma Get There? Ideally Grandma would stay at the hotel (rooms average around $438/night for August and go up from there, according to Booking.com), or at a nearby hotel such as The Park Lane Hotel or Le Parker Meridien.

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Party On! Events can go until 4 a.m.

The Report: 

This landmark hotel opened to the public in 1907 and has been the epicenter of everything from musical performances (Miles David recorded a live album in the hotel’s Persian Room in 1958) and political summits (the Plaza Accord was signed there) to famous fiction (F. Scott Fitzgerald’s The Great Gatsby uses The Plaza for several scenes and was the setting for the Eloise series of children’s books). It has also had several well-known owners throughout the years, from Conrad Hilton to Donald Trump. It underwent a $400 million renovation in 2008.

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Woman Getting Married Says:

I feel like I’ve seen so many fictional weddings at this hotel that it feels as if I was a guest at every single one! Having your wedding at the famed Plaza Hotel is something most girls dream about, especially if you grew up in New York City. And considering the hotel is considered one of the most iconic 5-star hotels in the world–let alone the U.S.– it shouldn’t come as any surprise that it’s one of the most expensive wedding venues on our list. With that price tag you can expect top notch service, food, and decor, but at the end of the day you’ll need a wedding budget close to $200,000+ to afford it. If you live in New York City or want a classic destination wedding spot and the cost is within your reach, you should definitely add this to your wish-list.

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"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

Best weddings I’ve been to are hands down Indian ones. They invite 300+ people over a multi day period. Nothing like it

 

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