What state would you remove from the US and why?

IMO there’s zero need for New Jersey. It’s essentially just the bratty little brother of New York. As the famous poet Chief Keef once said “We gon' come and blow New Jersey up”

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G0ldmanSacks

West Virginia, it’s basically a third world country

West Virginia is almost heaven.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 
Controversial

Mississippi terrible education and I believe it’s the most obese state in the country. 

The reality is that the of the 50 states the only ones that matter nationally are California (Innovation center of the world), New York (Finance center of world), Texas (Energy center of country), Ohio (Manufacturing and Consumer testing), Massachusetts (Biotech, Pharma, Med Devices, and Education), and Michigan (auto and manufacturing). 

You could eliminate 40 out of the remaining 44 states and would likely see no drop off in your day to day. The 4 states I’d probably keep in addition to the ones listed above would be Georgia, Washington, Nevada and Colorado.

You could really throw out any of the following as well as they’re all pie eaters: 

South: Alabama, Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri, South Carolina, and Florida 

Midwest: Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Indiana, Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Wyoming

Northeast: New Hampshire, Vermont, New Jersey, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, and Maine 

Atlantic: West Virginia and Delaware 

Southwest: Arizona, Utah, and New Mexico 

 

You went too far.

Florida has Disney, Miami, Tampa and a shit ton of America's rich ppl. Plus population is huge contributor to GDP.

Arizona has the biggest university in the country and one of the seven wonders of the world

Connecticut has many residents who work in NYC (NJ too) and CT has hedge funds (and pizza). NJ also has Jersey Shore which NYC ppl sometimes go for beach and nightlife. Removing both takes NYC down a notch.

Pennsylvania just has Wharton but that takes out a third of MBAs in high finance.

Utah has SLC, best snowboarding, basically the entire LDS religion, and Goldman's risk department. Goldman blowing up after UT disappears off the maps is gonna change my day. Delaware also has every fucking corporation housed there, although maybe I'm starting to take this too literal. Either way those states shouldn't be in your list of irellevant.

 

Florida: Outside of New Jersey probably my least favorite place in the country. Miami is incredibly dirty and has all of the worst aspects of Los Angeles with none of the benefits. Tampa is boring as hell and irrelevant as like a T5 city. Floridas only purpose in this country is tax evasion and to serve as a retirement destination for people from the northeast with no imagination. Texas at least has dominant industries and job prospects that don’t revolve around serving people who have made their money elsewhere. There are a million better places in this world to live if you have money with all of the benefits and none of the downsides (hurricanes, a wildlife population that has everything that can kill you, swamp people, etc.). California also has Disney Land and that’s also where there HQ so that’s not really a point of differentiation. Furthermore, Silicon Valley alone accounts for 2/3rds of Floridas GDP. You’d also think Florida would be a bigger player in agriculture but is behind both California and Texas. The whole Wall Street south movement is a joke.

Arizona: You’re talking to someone that’s lived there. It’s a great place to go for a bachelor party weekend but it’s really not an appealing place to live. There’s no dominant industries in the state so you have a random concoction of companies that operate there and a ton of call centers for banks, asset managers, etc. The weather is terrible 8 months a year and the people all pretend to hate California despite trying to emulate its culture. You also wouldn’t miss out on the Grand Canyon by excluding Arizona because I included Nevada which has the North Rim, which is like 45 minutes outside of Vegas as opposed to 3+ hours outside of Phoenix.

CT: Generally a pleasant place but is pretty boring. NY would pick up all of the slack from hedge  funds and you’d see no drop off. The pizza in New Haven is great but again NY would pick up the slack if it were no longer a part of the country.

NJ: Quite possibly the worst place in the developed world. The people here are cartoon characters and the cities are incredibly trashy. Newark and Atlantic City are hellholes that should be demolished. The Jersey Shore is awful and Hoboken is wildly overrated. If I had to describe this place to a stranger I’d describe it as a Long Island Iced Tea mixed with bleach.

Pennsylvania: Williams, Amherst, MIT, Harvard, Stanford, UCLA, UC Berkeley, USC, Columbia, NYU, Cornell, Michigan, UT Austin, Rice, GA Tech, and Emory would all more than make up for the loss of Princeton in NJ and Wharton.

Utah: The skiing in all of the places I listed more than makes up for the loss of Utah. Aspen, Breckenridge, Vail and Telluride in Colorado, Mammoth and Tahoe in California and Nevada, and Lake Placid in NY.

 
Risk Weighted Ass

You went too far.

Florida has Disney, Miami, Tampa and a shit ton of America's rich ppl. Plus population is huge contributor to GDP.

Arizona has the biggest university in the country and one of the seven wonders of the world

Connecticut has many residents who work in NYC (NJ too) and CT has hedge funds (and pizza). NJ also has Jersey Shore which NYC ppl sometimes go for beach and nightlife. Removing both takes NYC down a notch.

Pennsylvania just has Wharton but that takes out a third of MBAs in high finance.

Utah has SLC, best snowboarding, basically the entire LDS religion, and Goldman's risk department. Goldman blowing up after UT disappears off the maps is gonna change my day. Delaware also has every fucking corporation housed there, although maybe I'm starting to take this too literal. Either way those states shouldn't be in your list of irellevant.

 

I’ll give you Illinois as an oversight but the 10 states I listed account for around to slightly more than 50% of GDP.

What does Florida bring to the table that the other states I listed don’t?

Tampa, Jacksonville, and Orlando are like T5 cities and not exactly career hubs. Miami drastically underperforms peer cities in terms of career opportunities and has all of the downsides of a place like Los Angeles with very little upside. My impression is your only options for building a career in Florida are servicing wealth, real estate, and tourism. Two out of those three aren’t bad places to be but don’t necessarily scream robust opportunities. Furthermore, the whole Wall Street south thing is never going to happen.

The education isn’t a relative strength compared to the names I listed, the weather is incredibly humid and you have to deal with hurricanes yearly, you’re surrounded by just about every kind of creature that can kill you, it’s agriculture industry is smaller than both Texas and California, it’s biggest attraction was created in California, Cape Canaveral is the byproduct of work done in Houston, etc. The only unique things that I can think of about the state are the population demographics of Miami and the PGA HQ.

As an outsider Florida isn’t top tier in anything outside of being a retirement destination but wants a seat at the table with California, New York and Texas who are the economic engines of the country. If they were to leave the country in a hypothetical scenario there would be no drop off in anyone’s quality of life in any of the 49 other states. Take out New York and the financial system would collapse, Texas the energy system would collapse, and California innovation and economic prosperity brought about by the technology industry would fall off a cliff. Personally don’t understand all of the love the state is getting at the moment. Texas seems to offer all of the benefits of a place like Florida with almost no downsides (worse weather) and tons more opportunities (IB, PE, Consulting, Energy, Technology, etc.). 

 

Obviously this is a troll post or the OP knows very little about New Jersey.  Many financial services companies have a major presence in NJ such as BofA/ML, Prudential, Pershing to name a few.  There are also plenty of pharma companies in NJ such as JNJ, Merck and Bristol Meyers.  Nj also has lots of Universities including one of  the best in the world in Princeton.  In addition, lots of people who live in NJ work in NYC.

For me, if I get business from a state, I would want to keep it.  If I do not get business from a state, it can go.  

 

All of our states are important and have culture and meaning and history.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

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All of our states are important and have culture and meaning and history.

May be.  Manchin has called for Biden to drop out and has suggested the Governor for Kentucky or Josh Shapiro of PA.  Josh Shapiro would be my pick amongst the names discussed.  He is very popular in PA and he is not extreme.  I do not know how he would fit on the ticket or what the process would need to be.  I think Harris has to stay on the ticket.  My preference would be for her to stay at VP and let Shapiro be at the top.  I think donors would be glad to see Shapiro on the ticket

 

Different states serve different purposes — New York and New York-associated spillover (NJ and CT) is the financial superpower of the world, California and Massachusetts have a substantial presence in technology and healthcare, Virginia is a major center of the military-industrial complex, and Illinois, Florida, Georgia, Ohio, and Michigan all have large economies with focuses on either corporate presence/manufacturing and R&D/tourism. Beyond that, Texas, North Dakota, Wyoming, Louisiana, and Alaska are crucial for natural resources, and Hawaii has tourism and military importance. I would also argue that states adjacent to these states (ex. Rhode Island, New Hampshire, Maryland, Pennsylvania) are closely tied enough to major city economies that they’d be non-strategic to remove. Denver, Seattle, Minneapolis, and Phoenix are decent-sized metros as well, so probably not ideal to remove their states either.


The next question is, “where does food come from?” To remove the “breadbasket” of America … Nebraska, Kansas, etc … would hurt in this aspect.


Subjectively, there are also some states most people would like to keep for the “cool” factor. Utah, Nevada, Oregon, Montana, Idaho, and New Mexico, and Tennessee come to mind. They have some significant points of interest.


Basically, then, this leaves two regions: parts of the Deep South (Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas), and parts of Appalachia (West Virginia, Kentucky). Not so coincidentally, these are actually the five lowest states by human development index. In fact, Puerto Rico has a higher HDI than West Virginia or Mississippi. The Northern Mariana Islands have a higher HDI than Mississippi.

Mississippi, at least, has fertile soil and coastline. So I’d go with West Virginia.

 

johnny-mnemonic

Some of these answers … holy shit do you guys even like this country? Have you been to these states before? 
 

The correct answer is Puerto Rico… why is it even a territory?

The correct answer to “Which state would you remove” is something that isn’t a state? 
 


 

You are arguably the only person in this thread who gave a wrong answer. 

Commercial Real Estate Developer
 

Shame on this question, and shame on a lot of this thread. People should just simplify everything, be honest, and say that they despise the poor. 

So what, a state has less money than another state does? So what, a state has fewer finance jobs than New York? So what, there's less opportunity in this or that way? Does that make them any less deserving as citizens than you are? It's one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for ALL. None of this removal garbage.

Yet another reminder that the regional elitism which the general populace ascribes to the financial services industry is alive and well. Drivel.

 

Brother I love Florida. While I do agree they would put up a valiant fight against Australia. Australians would wipe the floor with FL. Those dudes are fucking insane. I was there working and there was a massive rattle snake or something in our tent. Dude just walked over “ahh, she won’t hurt ya” picks it up and yeets it out of our tent. We google imaged it eastern brown snake. I was like bruh. I would say tho Floridians and Australians would 100% be best friends.

 

Florida got the Yoink guy though. He's channeling his inner Croccodile hunter. Though the CH's kids are now grown and they were yoinking at like 4 soooo, I guess your right. 

I honestly had mixed feelings living in FLA, Tampa area. Soooooo much trash and new money haha. But also, the dollar has gone so far, and the weather was great. Ton to do. Working at a pool bar part time during undergrad and it was the best job ever. 

 

The correct answer here is simple, Texas.  We would love to break off and be our own country (and remain a close ally of course).  We would threaten to join OPEC (but of course we would not, in fact, join OPEC).  We WOULD hold blue states hostage to our oil and gas production since they don't think they need it anyway.  And our ethane, propane and butane production.  And our ethylene and propylene production.  And our gasoline, diesel and jet fuel production.  We would combine the Cowboys and Texans to dominate the NFL.  We would combine the Astros and Rangers and run through the MLB.  And of course, we'd combine the Rockets/Spurs/Mavs and destroy the NBA.  No I did not think this through all the way.

Also we'd invade Louisiana and take it because a) lots of industrial production and b) I don't think the United States wants it anyway (it's a liability).  We'd invade Eddy and Lea county in New Mexico as well for their oil & gas production.

 
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Probably a huge chunk of the south since they literally have worse GDP per capita than some parts of Mexico lol

Atlanta is literally the busiest airport in the world. 

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

East coast will want to keep PA if they want to keep their lights on. Pennsylvania is the 2nd largest natural gas producer in the US after Texas.

 

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