Best MF to spend career at?

Assuming you can last, between BX, APO, Warburg, KKR, Carlyle, TPG, Thoma Bravo, which sounds like the best to spend a career at? Curious about the following categories for rankings: Culture, how hard is it to make partner/sr partner, WLB, carry maximization/co-invest/fund performance. Assuming Warburg has the best culture, Apollo most straightforward path to partner and highest carry but shit WLB…curious to what everyone thinks

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But the culture there is terrible. Could never imagine spending more than two years there. 

 

More carry to go around - less regulatory BS.  Focus on just investing.   

Realistically CD&R, Hellman & Friedman, Genstar, Clearlake, Platinum and all the other ~ 10bn + shops that focus solely on PE that are private should be in the conversation here.  I'd rather be a partner at any of those first four than TPG for example.  

KPS as well.  

 

Bain Capital. It is known for growing talent organically, and it has a nice culture so people stay around for the long term. I think that the consulting (ie non pure finance) heritage might be helpful.

It is also privately held so as someone mentioned above, it has more potential for carry as well as less admin/compliance BS, which is a pain.

 

Might have to agree with Thoma Bravo or Warburg. On the comp side, highest is probably one of those 2 or Apollo, just because TB and Warburg are private (in public MF’s, effectively half the carry goes out the door…) and thoma bravo of course has sick returns, but Apollo also is just notorious for paying a lot, but tough tough culture/WLB. I think if you can really grind it out and you’re built for anything, Apollo is the place. If you’re like the rest of us, probably TB or Warburg. By the time you’re in your 40s, in any of the 3 funds (assuming you’ve been there since associate days), you will probably have cleared >$50-75mm carry which is obviously a slam…

 

I really think that for APO, it's if you're well-connected within the firm through external connections or you get lucky with the backing of select partners. Everyone getting a job there is more or less built for anything but getting tapped to succeed there has so little to do with the factors that are within your control. The same could be said about other firms obviously but just wanted to call out that APO doesn't necessarily require a "special" kind of person.

 

Is it right to say you sacrifice WLB and Culture for Comp? I feel like most places that pay the best really don’t give a shitt because they know there’s X amount of other candidates that will take their position for the comp alone whereas a firm which pays below street looks to entice people in other ways? I mean I’m not too sure just speculating, follow the pay and you’ve likely got your answer?

 

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