CPPIB PE team
Any intel on the PE team based on Toronto? Deal flow, culture, learning opportunities, exit. Thanks in advance!
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Lots of threads on this topic but there is pretty large turnover. Hours are pretty reasonable/low.
Curious on the same - what's the cause of the turn over (is it lack of learning, culture, etc.)? Heard pay is good and hours sound decent. None of the threads are that recent
Have heard that the issue is primarily really bad hours at the moment - high turnover means they are understaffed while deal flow is the same (usually quite high from my understanding). But when they are understaffed like that, there is no longer any value prop to taking a lower pay (if hours are as bad as banking / GPs, why stay?). Also imagine some other issues mentioned in this thread contribute, like it being difficult / slow to move up within the org.
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Very curious what the hours have been like since COVID.
I've assumed a combination of COVID, longer hours, lower pay (vs. Banks and other GPs) and led to a lot of turnover. Have heard from multiple sources on the issue of turnover issue at CPP recently so seems to check out.
Ya but CPP doesn't originate any deal flow. They just co-invest along with mega managers.
Based on a few primary sources, I don’t actually think that’s true. From what I understand they will sometimes originate and invite GPs to be co-sponsors with them (but they will almost always invest alongside a GP, even if they originate). Then they also do plenty of more traditional co-invest where a GP originates and they piggyback off the GPs diligence. So do a fair bit of both, which is why it gets busy when they don’t hire enough.
Again, this is what friends at the firm have told me, so could be wrong. Maybe the CPP employee in this thread could confirm or add colour.
I used to work there.
We would literally just wait until Macquarie, Bain, TPG, Carlyle would send us co-invest deal flow and then we'd use their models and memos to paste into our 70 page decks. We never took the lead on any deal and we got priority because we could write very large cheques. The leadership on the PE side was pretty poor, but certainly not as poor as it is now. I was in NY btw.
it seems to be a stepping stone for those who work at a Canadian IB in America to later pivot to PE at UMM or Megafund
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