I have read that H&F is a “sweaty” work environment so I’m trying to understand how bad it is. Can people share what’s so bad there? How is the hours, culture, and intensity compared too other top funds that hire consultants like Bain, Advent, and Berkshire
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Much worse than Advent as one data point
- one of the highest AUM per associate... lean deal teams, high responsibility and ownership as a junior
- very fast growth rate, lots of dry powder piled up in recent years (vs Bain & friends have been sitting on big numbers for a while and have more overhead available to use it)
- willing to pay high prices for top quality assets, but it's a high hurdle to invest in that they have to be incredible investments (lots of time looking into things you don't invest in, hard to get past IC)
- larger check size than typical MF, again, higher amount of diligence here
- from the above points - more involvement with portcos, esp. given you're not buying turnaround assets
Outstanding opportunity, everyone there is smart and pleasant (vs. somewhere like Apollo, where you will work the same long hours but with incredibly tough people) it's just the way they do things that makes it a very sweaty place to work. One of the top associate seats if you can land it + are willing to put in a few years of horrible WLB for great experience
Here's a fun anecdote: For a deal, heard they had a team member converting their living room into a war room for the team. Firm bought desks and monitors and everything. Deal team moved in and lived in the spare bedrooms for a month.
This isn't just a "you're going to work weekends" style of sweaty =)
why doesn't everyone just meet in the office?
Commute wastes time.
Lets say 5 members with 30 mins each way. Multiply that by 30 days in a month. Lets say deal takes 3 months. That's 450 hours saved.
Insane if real
This sounds absolutely awesome lmao
Lmfaoooo they implicitly assume you have no friends / SO
False. H&F BECOMES your friend and SO
Is there comp Apollo or WP level?
Beats WP
Any other anecdotes? This is super interesting haha
Seems like a top seat but a very tough place to work
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