IB to FoF/Co-Invest to PE ?
So I have a background in IB and considering an offer within a renowned FOF & co-invest team.
Would it be hurtful to my career going there for 1 year if I then plan on going to PE or GE ?
People say you don't build the skillset, but thinking it wouldn't hurt getting some co-invest experience. Most of the work on IB is building useless decks, market updates and doing comps and jumping on status update calls. Thinking that adding a year or so of co-invest where I would actually focus on doing some buyside DD & modelling could be useful. Although unclear how the FoF angle will help.
Any thoughts?
Based on the most helpful WSO content, transitioning from IB to a FoF/Co-Invest role for a year and then aiming for PE or GE can be a strategic move, but it comes with trade-offs. Here's what you need to consider:
Skillset Development:
Perception in PE Recruiting:
Exit Opportunities:
Timeframe Consideration:
Alternative Paths:
In summary, a year in a FoF/Co-Invest role could be beneficial if you focus on co-investments and gain tangible buyside experience. However, you’ll need to be strategic about how you present this experience to PE recruiters and ensure it aligns with your long-term goals.
Sources: Direct Invest to FoF/Co-Invest?, Q&A: 1st year FoF Infrastructure at Buyside, Q&A: 1st year FoF Infrastructure at Buyside, https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/asset-management/qa-current-analyst-at-20bn-hedge-fof?customgpt=1, https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/asset-management/qa-current-analyst-at-20bn-hedge-fof?customgpt=1
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Bump. In exactely same situation
I did 1 year of IB before spending the last 2 in a co invest seat. We don’t do primaries, just co invest and single asset CVs.
Personally, I think I learned tremendously more here. Being in the co invest seat also exposes you to a wide variety of PE strategies.
However, I think most headhunters just want to see the cookie cutter 2 years IB background and may be hesitant to give credit for co invest work. Not really sure as I haven’t been active recruiting. I am considering the jump to secondaries, but am trying to optimize for career track roles.
Thanks!
Where have your coworkers moved to since you’ve been there ?
We are a very small shop. 2 associates before me in last ten years. One went to blackrock and then did M7 MBA. The other got pregnant and became SAHM
Virtually unheard of to go from one of our seats into direct PE roles at any reputable GP. Most of the work is banking off due diligence that has already been done by the GP, potentially running some scenario analysis and sending out some Q&A. Not suggesting that it's a bad seat, the WLB is great but the work is not materially beneficial to someone who want's to go to directs down the line.
Would it hurt versus having nothing lined up (unemployment), if you have previous IB experience?
Are the modelling and DD that superficial?
Re: WLB, what are your hours?
Honestly you will probably be ‘stuck’ in the industry for the foreseeable future and yes everything is very superficial for the coinvests. My hours are varied since I work within a group which also does Secondaries but it’s around ~60 a week.
Short answer having done this myself is that going from FoF to direct PE is one of the most challenging uphill battles you can engage in.
Headhunters don’t know what to do with you (why pitch an “untraditional” candidate over a GS associate) and GPs don’t take you seriously because they work with co-investors and know exactly that you leverage their work at best or are a pain in the butt with stupid questions at worst (to justify to your LPs the hefty fees you charge for not doing a lot).
It’s a useful seat to see the PE landscape at large but it’s like a zoo (imperfect analogy but illustrates the point) in the sense that you can observe the lions and throw a steak but that doesn’t mean you can switch sides and join the pack after. Avoid unless you’re happy to live the LP life forever potentially (nothing wrong if you do btw but you need to know that).
What were the key pushbacks you received, and how did you manage to mitigate it / land a role?
Main pushback is that larger funds only look at pedigreed backgrounds and LPs are not in that bucket, so your CV automatically goes to the bin (remember that FoF is generally the exit from the exit to WLB land). Once you get into the process, HHs and the GPs just don’t believe that you have experience running independent DD nor have any modeling experience to speak of since joining an LP. You basically start the game on your own 1 yard line which kills you in this competitive environment.
I was able to land a spot at a strong shop because I put blood, sweat, and tears into it for over a year and had people pulling for me.
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